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    Quote Originally Posted by thollandpe View Post
    I had a brief conversation with this lass yesterday, she was quite upset. She'd lost a calf earlier in the week, and hadn't quite come to grips that it was gone, and hadn't just wandered off.
    out on the bike path?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Strongin View Post
    It's maybe a little weirder than bike racing. But a little less weird than if bike racing involved tiny men riding on the bike racers' backs.
    The tiny men are figuratively on the racers' backs, and literally in the cars behind them. Or back at the hotel warming up the blood bags.

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    Quote Originally Posted by e-RICHIE View Post
    It's like slavery, but with animals.
    I've heard similar sentiments expressed a lot this week.
    I have a Kentucky bred OTTB, bloodline is Seattle Slew/Mr Prospector/Northern Dancer/AP Indy. Terrific trail horse and as sweet as a puppy. So, maybe my perspective is skewed or maybe I've been around a few Thoroughbreds.
    The horses LOVE to race, most of them. Its like any athlete doing his thing. So no, its not like slavery.
    However, many of the money guys suck. Horses are a commodity. Who cares where they go if they can't run fast enough to make stud fees. And the numbers are staggering-my guy sold for 98k as a yearling, ran six times, and was rescued for a $400 fee. Imagine that time thousands of horses. So, the owners and some trainers will resort to anything to make a horse fast, like many aging masters cyclists.
    You won't find many other people in the barns, though, that aren't truly in love with the creatures. The pay sucks, you have money flaunted in your face everyday, you work no matter what the weather, so why do it unless for passion?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by glepore View Post
    I've heard similar sentiments expressed a lot this week.
    I have a Kentucky bred OTTB, bloodline is Seattle Slew/Mr Prospector/Northern Dancer/AP Indy. Terrific trail horse and as sweet as a puppy. So, maybe my perspective is skewed or maybe I've been around a few Thoroughbreds.
    The horses LOVE to race, most of them. Its like any athlete doing his thing. So no, its not like slavery.
    However, many of the money guys suck. Horses are a commodity. Who cares where they go if they can't run fast enough to make stud fees. And the numbers are staggering-my guy sold for 98k as a yearling, ran six times, and was rescued for a $400 fee. Imagine that time thousands of horses. So, the owners and some trainers will resort to anything to make a horse fast, like many aging masters cyclists.
    You won't find many other people in the barns, though, that aren't truly in love with the creatures. The pay sucks, you have money flaunted in your face everyday, you work no matter what the weather, so why do it unless for passion?
    The horses love to race. No doubts there. They're bred to race by people who view these animals as, as you say - commodities. I won't question the love and passion that so many of the barn and day workers have. It must be lovely to spend your working lives in such pastoral settings. Seriously. But at the end of the day, the animals are asked to do what their gene pool tells them is natural. It reminds me of The Boys From Brazil, but that story was fiction not reality (I hope, especially being a Jewish man.)

    Humans who compete (for any reason) have a choice. And if and when they fail at it, they can walk away, maybe laugh about it, and or heal. Many horses are just shot and taken away. That part creeps me out too.

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    I watched Cigar run his final race at Belmont standing by the rail at the finish line. Watching the pack make the final turn was something I will never forget; feeling their hooves pounding the earth down the stretch, and marveling at the power and beauty of the charge made me wonder how the Highland Squares managed to withstand the charge of Marshall Ney's cavalry at Waterloo.

    The Battle of Waterloo: The British Squares Receiving the Charge of the French Cuirassiers - Wikipedia
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by mzilliox View Post
    this is something people care about? horses running in circles with tiny men on their backs?? humans are fuckin weird
    Please apply your reductive form to the Met Gala
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christian Fox View Post
    Please apply your reductive form to the Met Gala
    I don't know what the Met Gala is...but I've seen these pics the last day or so and they make me LOL



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    we raised horses, not KD calber, but quarter horses from the king ranch in texas...
    i will stand on my hoosier training from many years prior --- "no amount of training deletes the natural instinct for survival"
    keeping footing intact for balance is an survival instinct, even with a jockey in command...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgaddis View Post
    I don't know what the Met Gala is...but I've seen these pics the last day or so and they make me LOL


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    Met gala? humans are weird
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    Look at the faces in the met gala crowd. if thats not a fun looking bunch of jerks, i dont know what is... not a smile to be found. glad they showed up, itd be social suicide not to
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    Quote Originally Posted by mzilliox View Post
    Look at the faces in the met gala crowd. if thats not a fun looking bunch of jerks, i dont know what is... not a smile to be found. glad they showed up, itd be social suicide not to
    You're just snitty because unlike the rest of us beautiful people, you weren't invited.

    We were all hanging out in a back room and had a blast - I'll send you a link to the Instagram pics. ;)


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