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    Devil indeed. I might actually trade my soul for finished windows and doors just now.

    Gattonero - It can be frustrating that some of the building methods in Europe and Asia aren't more affordable here in the US. Wood is our traditional material, and it will take a significant price advantage to drive the industry towards different materials. I don't think the wood we used could be called cheap though! But it was cheaper than some other options we considered in the design process. Not necessarily the cost of materials themselves, but all the other costs - finish grade, transport, installation - plus increased risk of cost overruns due to delays or lack of experience with newer materials among even highly qualified constructors. Wood is local, available, known, and normalized in the house building industry.

    And the carpenters we have working on this house are top quality. So wood it is!
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    I've had the same thoughts--what do I think I'd like to do if I built new, versus what makes sense for the builders. Your answer makes sense to me, Jorn. I'm attracted to forest fire country, though, so I'll keep thinking about alternatives to wood.
     

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    There is nothing worse than widows that don’t fit. The problems just multiply from there. Don’t ask me how i know.

    Every thing looks amazing Jorn, like Ides, I’ve been wondering when we would get an update.

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    that looks lovely. in Austria we usually have breeze blocks and wood cladding. The standard of construction and insulation is high compared to the UK. No bears in either place. On the subject of wood we sourced some c100 year old apple, about 3 inches thick, and made 2 side tables. we left the wood irregularly shaped, and the blacksmith who is also an artist made the legs (blackened steel) in a very clever way so initially it looks regular, but after a minute or two you realise it is an optical illusion. We will make a coffee table over the summer with a bigger piece of apple, and do the same thing with a coffee table. Mix of old rustic and rather funky. Good luck with the rest of your project, envious apart from the bears.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by mnoble485 View Post
    There is nothing worse than widows that don’t fit. The problems just multiply from there. Don’t ask me how i know.

    Every thing looks amazing Jorn, like Ides, I’ve been wondering when we would get an update.

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    Thanks Mike. The corners on the house roof are all rounded as per the design, so after trying a few things onsite to get a smooth curve, the GC called up a cabinet maker who made forms based on the measurements from the architects and steam bent and glued up a custom laminate to achieve the proper shape. Really a shame they are going to get covered over with the roof material and metal edge, but boy are they nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slwrnu View Post
    that looks lovely. in Austria we usually have breeze blocks and wood cladding. The standard of construction and insulation is high compared to the UK. ....
    Perhaps anywhere you get an average better house than in UK! double-glazing in a flat/house is sold like an absolute premium, rather than been considered a fair standard and a massive improvement against condensation inside the house and reducing the heating bills. You'll probably never seen saggy floor corners and mould inside cupboards and walls, until you've rented a flat in London
    It's not coincidence that where I live -a properly kept place- the landlords are German/Austrian, it seems typical they look after their dwellings
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    I own a small flat in one of those smart stucco fronted squares in Pimlico. The sash windows rattle and I need to heat it a lot. My flat in Austria is much bigger, is at 950 m altitude, and barely needs to be heated at all.
     

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    There you go.
    And is likely that you're not allowed to replace them either: a friend in Kentish Town has this problem
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    correct, it is listed, no chance of replacing, i have to wedge paper between the window and the frame. But it is a beautiful square, attractive large well maintained communal gardens and a tennis court. Lucky.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by j44ke View Post
    The corners on the house roof are all rounded as per the design, so after trying a few things onsite to get a smooth curve, the GC called up a cabinet maker who made forms based on the measurements from the architects and steam bent and glued up a custom laminate to achieve the proper shape. Really a shame they are going to get covered over with the roof material and metal edge, but boy are they nice.
    Jorn...when fabricating the roof drip edge termination bar for your radius framing (not clear about your specific detail), ask the architect and contractor about rolling the metal as opposed to segmenting, which many do to save time and expense. You have time to deal with it which is nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rwsaunders View Post
    Jorn...when fabricating the roof drip edge termination bar for your radius framing (not clear about your specific detail), ask the architect and contractor about rolling the metal as opposed to segmenting, which many do to save time and expense. You have time to deal with it which is nice.
    Thanks. By rounded, I meant no angle corners on the viewed-from-above shape of the roof. Each corner is an arc. But I think your advice makes sense regardless. I'd like as long a piece of metal edge around the roof as possible, especially including the corners. So I will definitely ask by what method will the metal be shaped.
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    Jorn...here's an idea of what I mentioned before as I should have provided an example. I'm sure that there are other firms that provide the same materials and services. Less likely to have a leak when you roll the edge as opposed to segmenting the edge...just takes some planning. The link should take you to the third image from the left.

    "Gravel stop edge metal is custom fabricated to any
    measurements and it usually measures 10' in length
    but can also be bent in 12' lengths. We also
    manufacture radius gravel stop metal, in which the
    gravel stop itself is slightly different, and can match any profile."

    Gravel Stop Edge Metal for Roofing - Straight and Radius
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    Yes to what has been said above, and to emphasize how important this detail will be. If it is not a constant radius it will be a source of perpetual disappointment. There is a building along the West Side Highway some world class architect designed, and they fudged the parapet, which makes the rest of it look like hell. From the photos it appears they framing is very well done, but the edge must be perfect.

    There are other materials that might be easier to work with. Metal is very unforgiving.
     

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