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    Good news from SCOTUS this morning, both on DOMA and California. Sometimes they get the expansion of rights right.

    I wish it made me feel better about yesterday's decision...
    GO!

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    While the left hand struck down DOMA, the right hand was.....Supreme Court Bombshell: No Right to Remain Silent

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    Quote Originally Posted by Antonin Scalia
    The Court’s errors on both points spring forth from the same diseased root: an exalted conception of the role of this institution in America.
    To expound on the question in Scalia's dissent: why are Americans so obsessed with the institution of marriage? It's not mentioned anywhere in the Constitution or in the Bill of Rights. Is that why politicians feel safe passing laws to exclude certain groups from it? What's the next thing for us to obsess and divide ourselves over?
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    Quote Originally Posted by zetroc View Post
    What's the next thing for us to obsess and divide ourselves over?
    Economic Class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chancerider View Post
    Economic Class.
    Done.

    What's next?

    The members of the Supreme Court are like the umpires of the Constitution. Every single one of them has their idea of what the strike zone looks like. Doesn't matter what the strike zone actually is. It never has. That's why it works so well over time and compensates for the momentary idiocy and over-reaching incompetence of the other two branches of government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chancerider View Post
    Economic Class.
    It's a topic worth, as is the current fashionable phrase, "a conversation".


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    Thankfully they at least got this one right.

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    About damn time. I just last week attended a civil union between two women in DC. It was FUCKING awesome to see it happen. The two had been in love for 4 or 5 years and live in a state where it wasn't legal for them to be married. The oatmeal has it correct:

    gay_marriage.png

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    Quote Originally Posted by zetroc View Post
    What's the next thing for us to obsess and divide ourselves over?
    Circumcision and Happy Meal Toys
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    Quote Originally Posted by false_aesthetic View Post
    Circumcision and Happy Meal Toys
    this killed me :ROFL:

    really though, I think most people in this country are ready to live and let live. It's a good sign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by false_aesthetic View Post
    Circumcision
    The thing that worries me most on earth is the division between parts of penises and other parts of penises. There is nothing more frightening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronv View Post
    It's a topic worth, as is the current fashionable phrase, "a conversation".


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    Blame it on computers and math.... I do the job of 20 men did 20 years ago and probably get paid the salary of 3. Therefore, I have to be better (more skilled) than the 19 men who lost. And they will have to find a job with a lower wage. With this kind of math its pretty simply to figure out why the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Or really why fewer are getting richer and more are getting poorer. The Reaganonmics works but not when technology improves productivity at the cost of human labor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chancerider View Post
    While the left hand struck down DOMA, the right hand was.....Supreme Court Bombshell: No Right to Remain Silent
    Im surprised that sneaked under the radar In the UK when they pulled that trick there were nearly riots

    What next guilty till proven innocent

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    the Prop 8 ruling wasn't all that great

    I mean it's funny that the proponents had no grounds to appeal given that gay marriage doesn't cause them any legal injury

    but they could have entertained it long enough to rule that states can't ban gay marriages

    instead we'll have another 5-10 years of legal maneuvering before that inevitable conclusion is reached

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    It's amazing what tiny baby steps we have to take on this issue when it's such a ridiculously obvious decision. I thought this was a pretty funny piece:

    DOMA: Court endorses gay marriage, but only for 30% of Americans | canada.com

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    The Supreme Court's decision has already stopped a number of deportations of mixed nationality married couples. And our accountant has be revisiting past tax filings for clients like it is April again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j44ke View Post
    Done.

    What's next?

    The members of the Supreme Court are like the umpires of the Constitution. Every single one of them has their idea of what the strike zone looks like. Doesn't matter what the strike zone actually is. It never has. That's why it works so well over time and compensates for the momentary idiocy and over-reaching incompetence of the other two branches of government.
    Antonin Scalia = Joe West.

    If you don't know baseball, players hate him for having a wildly inconsistent strike zone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nahtnoj View Post
    Antonin Scalia = Joe West.

    If you don't know baseball, players hate him for having a wildly inconsistent strike zone.
    Most people have a pretty good idea of what Tony will call a strike or a ball. He tends to favor the right side of the plate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joosttx View Post
    Most people have a pretty good idea of what Tony will call a strike or a ball. He tends to favor the right side of the plate.
    Your strike zone is you ideology; how you see the world. It can't move because you don't like the outcome.

    This is why most SCOTUS decisions (including DOMA) disappoint me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joosttx View Post
    Most people have a pretty good idea of what Tony will call a strike or a ball. He tends to favor the right side of the plate.
    Especially Low and Inside.

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