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    Default Dear BB7s

    I hate you.

    They are so weird.

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    Default Re: Dear BB7s

    wish I knew this 4 years ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hellafab View Post
    wish I knew this 4 years ago.
    Not sure that is fair. BB7s were the schnizzle when compared to other mechanical disc brakes (back in the day) but obviously have been surpassed by great road hydro options.
     

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    I had a mtb from early 2000's with hayes mechanical discs and they were much, much better to use and easier to set up than the bb7's....
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    I've had great luck with the road version, but I prefer TRP Spyres.
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    So here is what I'm into. When these s get replaced I'm going to make a pile of powdered aluminum, ferrous oxide and stick a magnesium strip into the pile. Put the brakes ontop, crack a beer, light the magnesium strip...film the whole thing and laugh like a possessed demon.

    Don't underestimate my hate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Too Tall View Post
    So here is what I'm into. When these s get replaced I'm going to make a pile of powdered aluminum, ferrous oxide and stick a magnesium strip into the pile. Put the brakes ontop, crack a beer, light the magnesium strip...film the whole thing and laugh like a possessed demon.

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    What's not to like? BB7s have it all. Easy setup- just remember the "rule of 1/3 and 2/3" and have your micrometer and slide rule handy. Only takes 5-6 minutes on average to get the pads to stop rubbing the disc every time you change a wheel. And - get this - I only had to take my front unit to the grinder twice (only twice! Can you believe it!?) to get excess metal off the face into which the mounting bolts thread.

    I mean, they're the complete package.
     

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    are junk.
    have always been junk.
    will always be junk.
     

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    Why would anyone purchase a cable actuated disc brake in 2018?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saab2000 View Post
    Why would anyone purchase a cable actuated disc brake in 2018?
    "because I know how to work on cables"

    I was lucky enough that my first "real" MTB had hydros - cheap Hayes, but they worked fine. I've never owned a mechanical disc brake, but having worked on some, and had to wait on friends while they fiddled with theirs at the trailhead, I'll never bother to own any.

    Hydros work better, in all regards. Better power, better modulation, and almost zero maintenance. And no need to adjust the pad spacing as the pads wear.

    ALSO - TT, my friend - I know the hate you feel inside your heart. I too have experienced that same hate, not from BB7s, but another Avid product (Elixers - three sets of them). I won't even tell you not to give in to it - it's too strong, I know. Instead, I'll quote the Bible, and I can't remember the book or the chapter or the verse, but it goes something like "And I say unto you, trouble not your heart on mechanical discs, but instead cast the wicked brakes aside, bolt up some Shimanos, and go forward, rejoicing in the light of superior engineering and manufacturing!"
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    YES now y'all get me. The brakes have been on my bike for 8 years (ish). I like to use "stuff" until it is roasted. All are welcome to the BB7 roasting party TBD. BYO BB7s to add to the pile and roast with me. If all goes according to plan we'll melt these buggers into a pentagram shaped medallion for posterity.

    Bible-like verses appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Too Tall View Post
    YES now y'all get me. The brakes have been on my bike for 8 years (ish). I like to use "stuff" until it is roasted. All are welcome to the BB7 roasting party TBD. BYO BB7s to add to the pile and roast with me. If all goes according to plan we'll melt these buggers into a pentagram shaped medallion for posterity.

    Bible-like verses appreciated.
    "And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee"

    Eight years is six years too long.

    Take that junk off. Let the healing start.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by lumpy View Post
    "And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee"

    Eight years is six years too long.

    Take that junk off. Let the healing start.
    First I need a walk in the woods to calm myself down. Self loathing creeps in my friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saab2000 View Post
    Why would anyone purchase a cable actuated disc brake in 2018?
    Travel........and tandem.

    We all know road tandems ridden up and down big hills is REALLY the only road app for disc brakes.

    Why is this in OT?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgaddis View Post
    Avid product (Elixers - three sets of them). I won't even tell you not to give in to it - it's too strong, I know. Instead, I'll quote the Bible, and I can't remember the book or the chapter or the verse, but it goes something like "And I say unto you, trouble not your heart on mechanical discs, but instead cast the wicked brakes aside, bolt up some Shimanos, and go forward, rejoicing in the light of superior engineering and manufacturing!"
    Building up my kids box, I had a Elixirs in a box... I bought XT's for her. EFF those things.

    SO much I haven't considered Avid brakes since... that "fool me fool me EFF me" thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoogs View Post
    Building up my kids box, I had a Elixirs in a box... I bought XT's for her. EFF those things.

    SO much I haven't considered Avid brakes since... that "fool me fool me EFF me" thing.
    I bought a new set of the lower end Elixers when I built up my SS back in '09, they had just come out and were supposed to be the bees knees. To their credit braking performance (power and modulation) was always good. But, eff me, they made SO much noise, ALL the time, and vibrated so bad. And it was impossible to get both levers to have the same feel, no matter how often you bled them (which they needed at least a few times a year).

    The other two sets I had were all the top-end versions, friends gave them to me when they replaced them with Shimanos. Eventually someone gave me a set of no-name Shimano hydros (as in, below Deore level). They worked so much better than the Elixers!!!

    A friend bought a Surly last year that came with the new Guide brakes that were supposed to be the bees knees. The 2nd week he had them outside temperatures climbed over ~85 degrees and they just completely stopped working, lever would go all the way to the bar with no braking happening. A seal made of the wrong material or something.

    Plus there was the whole fiasco with the road disc recall. At this point I don't think there's anything SRAM could do to get me back on their brakes again. I like their MTB drivetrain stuff tho, 'cause I love gripshift.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sine View Post
    Travel........and tandem.

    We all know road tandems ridden up and down big hills is REALLY the only road app for disc brakes.

    Why is this in OT?

    Agree with some of this! Looking forward to the next France trip!

    I’d opine that hydraulic can be used for this application but will require removal of the whole brake with the line and reattach it with zip ties.
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    A Reading from the Book of Armaments, Chapter 4, Verses 16 to 20:

    Then did Toots raise on high the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch, saying, "Bless this, O Lord, that with it thou mayst blow thine BB7's to tiny bits, in thy mercy." And the people did rejoice and did feast upon the lambs and toads and tree-sloths and fruit-bats and orangutans and breakfast cereals ... Now did the Toots say, "First thou pullest the Holy Pin. Then thou must count to three. Three shall be the number of the counting and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither shalt thou count two, excepting that thou then proceedeth to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the number of the counting, be reached, then lobbest thou the Holy Hand Grenade in the direction of thine BB7, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it."
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