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  • Expect to get COVID19 in the next 365 days

    80 66.12%
  • Do not expect to get COVID19 in the next 365 days

    40 33.06%
  • Got it

    1 0.83%
  • Tested positive for antibodies

    0 0%
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    i mentioned this a few pages back and believe there will be some alternate world / upside down approach to life for a while. restaurants will advertise their staff is 100% c19 recovered certified. hotels will advertise the same and/or that hotel rooms haven't been opened in 72 hrs. there will probably be 10000 little things like that. doctors offices where there is a c19 recovered and c19 not-recovered areas. different entrances to hospitals. certifications to work.

    i half wonder about companies providing dorms, cafeteria, and life services for the duration of a project. imagine building an apartment complex or even a house in the woods. if everyone is living onsite with all the materials, you work until its complete, and then leave the site. there is no c19 because everyone is quarantined together. it probably slows down all kinds of sickness while also increasing all kinds of other problems of a micro-society with loved ones at a distance.
     

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    Gosh and I'll I want for xmaschannukahkwanza is a hug.

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    A lot of studies about labor costs and social mobility (self-made man etc.) after the peak mortality years of the Black Plague that basically killed off 50% of the population in Europe. Confluence of factors afterward, some directly related to the social shifts from population reduction and others more indirectly, may have led the way to movements such as the fall of the Byzantine Empire, the Italian and Northern Rennaissance, religious reformations in the 14-1500's, etc. Obviously I am over-simplifying, but epidemics definitely leave scars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnmdesigner View Post
    The simple solution is not to listen to the NRA crap and make a generous donation to your local food bank.
    Thank you.

    My wife - a public school nurse whose workday is dramatically different than usual - has been volunteering to distribute food three mornings each week. The need is large and pervasive and will only grow.

    Quote Originally Posted by vertical_doug View Post
    I was thinking about the serology tests, and if you have the antigens/antibodies you are allowed to go back to work. Fed Gov Bullard is proposing something like this. This introduces an interesting dynamic to the labor market. If I am a minimum wage employee at Amazon, Walmart, a restaurant doing take out, and I have the antibody test, I would demand a raise. It is of incremental benefit to the employer. You are competing in a reduced labor market, a takeaway shop with all cooks being immune is no longer a risk of contaminating the food etc. It's be a marketing boon. I am sure you are immediately employable. Since many corporations refuse to allow unionism, this shifts the negotiating power back to you. You are by default part of a select union.. For large parts of the country not experiencing clusters, this may not be an issue, but for New York, Detroit and other urban areas, definitely an issue.
    There's also a hypothesis that there's some advantageous respiratory microbiome that provides certain people with much better resistance. Thank God for all these smart people pursuing all these possible avenues!
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    The flip side of everyone suddenly putting their antibodies on their resumes and LinkedIn profiles is beyond dark. At least no one has to get genetic testing to get a job yet.
     

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    Not sure how many have seen this.

     

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    The chances of Tesla being able to make these in volume still seems low.
     

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    A question about soap:

    When the bar of soap becomes small (yeah, I like bars of soap instead of those liquid thingies that often come in plastic bottles, and I'm not even a boomer), lathering up can be difficult. If it doesn't lather, is it less effective in cleaning your hands?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chik View Post
    A question about soap:

    When the bar of soap becomes small (yeah, I like bars of soap instead of those liquid thingies that often come in plastic bottles, and I'm not even a boomer), lathering up can be difficult. If it doesn't lather, is it less effective in cleaning your hands?
    How to Wash Your Hands - The New York Times
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    Quote Originally Posted by davids View Post
    Liquid soap might be better (when they say "best", did they also have powder soap in mind?), but I like bar soap so I still want to know. ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chik View Post
    A question about soap:

    When the bar of soap becomes small (yeah, I like bars of soap instead of those liquid thingies that often come in plastic bottles, and I'm not even a boomer), lathering up can be difficult. If it doesn't lather, is it less effective in cleaning your hands?
    Gawd you are serious and am I the only other one who struggles? Laughing at the two of us. Take a wash cloth, get it soaking wet. Put the too thin to grasp wafer of soap onto the soaking wet cloth. Fold over and rub until you have extracted enough soap to do whatever-it-is-we-do with that. Open the cloth and enjoy.

    xxoo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chik View Post
    A question about soap:

    When the bar of soap becomes small (yeah, I like bars of soap instead of those liquid thingies that often come in plastic bottles, and I'm not even a boomer), lathering up can be difficult. If it doesn't lather, is it less effective in cleaning your hands?
    Other than the effect of the hardness or softness of your water, soap lather comes from captured bubbles in the soap. Soap that lathers well is made with a step that increases the porousness of the soap. Dove is made that way. When you get down to the last sliver of soap, there are probably fewer bubbles in the soap and so lathering is subdued. My mother used to leave soap out to dry and the shrinkage in bar size was noticeable. Her contention was that if you dried soap, it lasted longer, which drove my father the chemist to the edge of insanity. He'd say all you were doing was compressing the voids in the soap as it dried and so it lathered less effectively. You were still using soap at the same rate. Anyway....

    https://www.instructables.com/id/Reforming-Soap-Scraps/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chik View Post
    A question about soap:

    When the bar of soap becomes small...
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    Gawd you are serious and am I the only other one who struggles?
    You guys are all honorary Swamp Yankees. A trick I learned from some depression-era Mainers is to put all the soap slivers in an old nylon stocking, tie it off (two knots if there's a hole in the toe) and hang it in the shower.

    And ain't it a little heartbreak when you break the soap sliver in half?
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    Only V Salon could abide, I swear to.....
    Why not melt the scraps and pour yourself a soap Golum?
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    My wife the nurse says regular visits to walk in clinics in southwest Michigan are way down because of social distancing. Because people are avoiding each other they aren't getting infected with the normal amounts of colds and regular flu.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thollandpe View Post

    And ain't it a little heartbreak when you break the soap sliver in half?
    That moment when it snaps and you stare in frustration at the sliver on the shower floor. Maddening.
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    We use Dr. Bronner's so when you're down to seeds and stems ya gotta find the little pea of soap crust that clogs up the bung and use that.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Kelly View Post
    Put it in direct sunlight.
    Could you or Will or maybe someone else speak to thoughts on decontamination that does not include washing. sunlight, simply leaving something and not touching it for x days, heat and/or what temperatures are effective, etc. with all the focus on sanitizing and masks, it seems like the focus on other methods is not as high. the main media reports i see are on UV, which is not 100% practical at home outside of a small phone size box, and how long things live on surfaces. i don't see much information on sunlight etc.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Too Tall View Post
    Gawd you are serious and am I the only other one who struggles? Laughing at the two of us. Take a wash cloth, get it soaking wet. Put the too thin to grasp wafer of soap onto the soaking wet cloth. Fold over and rub until you have extracted enough soap to do whatever-it-is-we-do with that. Open the cloth and enjoy.

    xxoo
    As usual and expected, there's too much overthinking VS-style (talc your tubes much?) Just leaving the old soap sliver on top of the new bar of soap while both are wet will result in their being welded together if allowed to dry. Just to add more noise, I've found that inexpensive unscented olive oil based soap is easier on dry hands than bath soap with deodorants, scents, dyes etc. My layman's understanding of the efficacy of soap is that it actually breaks down the virus coating, which is ... oh hell here's a link to a chem major's explanation. Washing hands with soap fights coronavirus. Here’s why it works so well. - Vox

    Here's an Amazon source, though shockingly expensive- I usually buy this from a local food co-op for about a buck fiddy a bar. It lasts longer than most commercial soap and the old slivers hold up! But it is V-salon, so the price makes it legit! But is is much nicer for frequent washing than Irish Spring or Dove or whatever. I hate stinky soap

    https://www.amazon.com/Olive-Scented.../dp/B07H7XBWZ7
     

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    Bar for the shower. Touchless dispenser for the sink.
     

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