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    Not too many people are surprised by the findings with the exception of Salazar and Dr. Brown, as Nike’s attorneys have lost this round. I am not surprised by the arrogance of Salazar’s response which was posted on the Oregon Project website...just surprised that Nike allowed such a response to be posted. Have they forgotten about the once famous cyclist that they helped sponsor?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...doping-agency/

    https://nikeoregonproject.com/blogs/...erto-statement
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    Quote Originally Posted by rwsaunders View Post
    Not too many people are surprised by the findings with the exception of Salazar and Dr. Brown, as Nike’s attorneys have lost this round. I am not surprised by the arrogance of Salazar’s response which was posted on the Oregon Project website...just surprised that Nike allowed such a response to be posted. Have they forgotten about the once famous cyclist that they helped sponsor?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/sport...doping-agency/

    Alberto Statement - Oregon Project
    Well, Saladbar's statement is factually correct. Its just you can use loopholes to avoid positive results, and still be in violation of the spirit of the rule. Not unlike old Team Sky in my opinion.
     

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    Is he just another megalomaniac (no shortage these days) or is he actually bat-shit crazy? Just really weird.
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    Feels like a group of people who think they are bigger than the sport. Let's not forget the threats--people who are like this like threats: John Capriotti, Nike Global Director of Athletics, Threatened To Kill Brooks Beasts Head Coach and Former Nike Employee Danny Mackey At 215 USAs According to Police Report - LetsRun.com
     

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    4 years does not seem long enough.
     

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    30 accompanying “pacemakers” and a lead pace car to break the 2-hour Marathon record...he used to run for Nike and now Ineos.

    Eliud Kipchoge smashes two-hour marathon barrier - CNN
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    Bizarre.
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    Not surprised Ineos cycling was involved in a supporting role. This seems consistent with Brailsford's approach, e.g., fixated on optimal conditions to replicate laboratory-developed performance. I bet he'd love to manipulate the TdF this way. Not the kind of thing that inspires me, at all.
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    Mary Cain is an amazing athlete. She was so fast! My niece, a collegiate runner, and I used to follow her results and write back and forth. And then she disappeared. Meanwhile, my niece's coach, a woman who had recruited her at the small college she attended, was dismissed and a new coach, a man, came in and said point blank that he would only work with the men. And that was the end of my niece's competitive running. She trained on her own, overtrained, and ended up breaking a bone in her foot. Before that, school records and consistent top 5 at meets. More importantly, she enjoyed it immensely and got great satisfaction out of it.

    Fortunately, she took all that focus and commitment from running and applied it to her studies. Now she is finishing her graduate work at UNC and will get her doctor of veterinary medicine degree next year.

    But what kind of sick f*ck looks at Mary Cain running like she did in high school and decides that what she needs is a course of action that will destroy all the gifts she has?

    Unfortunately, the answer is a list that keeps gets longer and longer.
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    The Oregon Project website which posted AS's lame response to WADA's actions has been pulled.
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    Reposting this because you must watch. This is hateful in the extreme.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by ides1056 View Post
    Reposting this because you must watch. This is hateful in the extreme.
    What I love about the piece (plenty which sickens me) is Mary Cain looks the camera dead in the eye and says, "and this is how to fix it". I do believe Alberto thinks he was looking out for Mary's well being and this is the problem. I have seen colligate sports like cross country eat up talented young women which usually begins is target weights and results in depression and stress fractures. Her and Nike's story I dont think is unique. Only the prestige is unique.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joosttx View Post
    What I love about the piece (plenty which sickens me) is Mary Cain looks the camera dead in the eye and says, "and this is how to fix it". I do believe Alberto thinks he was looking out for Mary's well being and this is the problem. I have seen colligate sports like cross country eat up talented young women which usually begins is target weights and results in depression and stress fractures. Her and Nike's story I dont think is unique. Only the prestige is unique.
    So true.

    Cam Levins who was a NOP teammate at the time, has come out and apologized to Mary for not looking out for her as he remembers Salazar bashing her for gaining weight. Jonathon Marcus who was meet director of 2015 OXY, says he remembers Salazar publicly yelling at Mary for gaining weight. Amy Yoder Begley was kicked off NOP in 2011 for finishing 6th at USATF Champs in the 10,000m. She remembers Salazar telling her she had the biggest butt on the starting line. Jordon Hasay, who was Mary's teammate, and currently a Nike runner needs to break her silence.
     

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    I am grateful for those like Mary Cain who are willing to shine a light on such dysfunction. I hope Salazar, and others in that program, wind up on the receiving end of some seriously punitive action. More than a 4-year ban.
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    Very interesting video. Living in Westchester County, where Mary Cain is from, always read articles in the local sports section about her during her high school days. Never really knew what happened to her after she entered college, other than her results were getting worse. There is a high school runner in section 1 in New York State (Mary Cain's former section) who is breaking Mary Cain's records. Hopefully, the young lady and her parents learn something from Mary Cain. Personally, hope the young lady stay an amateur and runs in college. A little bit of extra weight is not always a bad thing for the runners. A friend's daughter ran x/c and track for an Ivy League college. She developed an eating disorder. Thankfully, she received help, gained some weight back, and her results improved. Her senior year she qualified for the NCAA championship---think it was the mile--it was a number of years ago.
     

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