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    Quote Originally Posted by jclay View Post
    Congratulations to all the spineless, partisan hacks in the Senate; Trump really did learn his lesson: https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...74f_story.html
    if you dont want people to hear what your advisers are saying, fire em right? you're fired was his only qualification, should we be surprised nobody makes it long in the admin? should we be shocked when people with no intel experience who happen to caress nuts get the position? what a show. idiocracy real world edition
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    Spineless partisan hacks sure, but when orange nuffty gives a dressing down because he doesn't like the message, the now not quite so senior intelligence official most certainly should not have apologised, reminded orange that the intelligence agencies work for the country as a whole and walked out.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by mzilliox View Post
    if you dont want people to hear what your advisers are saying, fire em right? you're fired was his only qualification, should we be surprised nobody makes it long in the admin? should we be shocked when people with no intel experience who happen to caress nuts get the position? what a show. idiocracy real world edition
    At least Putin is entertained.

    How many trillions were spent fighting the cold war? Putin tied the score over a few months in 2016.
     

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    and it cost him pennies
     

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    On Joe Maguire, "In short order, he earned the respect of the entire intelligence community. They knew a good man was at the helm. A man they could count on, a man who would back them, a man whose integrity was more important than his future employment.

    But, of course, in this administration, good men and women don't last long. Joe was dismissed for doing his job: overseeing the dissemination of intelligence to elected officials who needed that information to do their jobs."

    William McRaven: If good men like Joe Maguire can't speak the truth, we should be deeply afraid - Washington Post

    Be afraid. Be very afraid.
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    and here I thought there couldn't be a less-qualified appointment than Ben Carson and Betsy DeVos
     

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    At the goober rally last night the Orange Dotard said the Corona virus was a hoax.

    Pray away the virus head bobber Pence and well regarded public health expert/part time Treasury Secretary Munchkin are in charge of the response.

    Anthony Fauci and other public health experts/scientists are muzzled and told to stand down.

    It's Leap Day. If Moscow Mitch sees his shadow there's only six more weeks of virus and then it will magically disappear like "a miracle" according to the Mango Skidmark.

    Things will work out fine. Oh, and reminders from Crackhead Kudlow and Wilbur: Buy the dips and the virus situation is a job creator.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sbti View Post
    At the goober rally last night the Orange Dotard said the Corona virus was a hoax.

    Pray away the virus head bobber Pence and well regarded public health expert/part time Treasury Secretary Munchkin are in charge of the response.

    Anthony Fauci and other public health experts/scientists are muzzled and told to stand down.

    It's Leap Day. If Moscow Mitch sees his shadow there's only six more weeks of virus and then it will magically disappear like "a miracle" according to the Mango Skidmark.

    Things will work out fine. Oh, and reminders from Crackhead Kudlow and Wilbur: Buy the dips and the virus situation is a job creator.
    this is crazy town we live in. if you still support this man, you are the problem as well
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    Speaker Nancy Pelosi can perhaps use her authority and influence to commence another impeachment against President Trump.
    It will undoubtedly work this time. She just did not have the correct allies and media voices aligned during the earlier attempt.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sbti View Post
    At the goober rally last night the Orange Dotard said the Corona virus was a hoax.
    EPOst hoc ergo propter hoc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sbti View Post
    At the goober rally last night the Orange Dotard said the Corona virus was a hoax.
    That may be what you heard but that’s not what was said.

    To put it in your native tongue – The blue checked marked Twatter Press Corp had a circle jerk and after doing a deep dive in each other’s asses, they pissed out the wrong story.

    But all hail the resistance brothers and sisters, all hail. (Clap back at us after your next bump)
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by becomingblue View Post
    "...in your native tongue..."
    Now that was pretty hilarious putting it into "Mango Mussolini"-style lingo.
    I did get a good chuckle out of your description of events, @becomingblue.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by becomingblue View Post
    That may be what you heard but that’s not what was said.
    What was actually said?

    Quote Originally Posted by becomingblue View Post
    The blue checked marked Twatter Press Corp...
    Ah yes, the Nattering Nabobs of Negativity.
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    I spent my day knocking on doors for Elizabeth Warren. I feel a whole lot better after talking to actual voters in a poor section of a poor city. It's a great tonic for a lot of the nonsense on line and maybe I moved the needle a little.

    ETA I've never done this before in my life.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thollandpe View Post
    What was actually said?
    Video clip from the rally here: Trump calls coronavirus Democrats''' '''new hoax'''

    He basically said Dems are politicizing coronavirus, gibberish gibberish, joke about Iowa, Russia Russia Russia, impeachment hoax, "and this is their new hoax," gibberish gibberish, dangerous comparisons with the flu, gibberish gibberish.

    So he didn't explicitly say, "coronavirus is a hoax." But he didn't not say it either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lumpy View Post
    I spent my day knocking on doors for Elizabeth Warren. I feel a whole lot better after talking to actual voters in a poor section of a poor city. It's a great tonic for a lot of the nonsense on line and maybe I moved the needle a little.

    ETA I've never done this before in my life.
    Kudos. I respect your actions.
     

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    Bringing this back up since it's most germane to this discussion. The President told Xi to go ahead with building concentration camps, then asked for his help in winning the 2020 election.

    Fuck this guy.

    Trump signs Uyghur human rights bill on same day Bolton alleges he told Xi to proceed with detention camps - CNNPolitics
     

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    And probably again the most relevant thread for this. When do we start credibly talking treason? If he's ignoring calls for Russian bounties on US soldiers' heads in Afghanistan, that would qualify as aid and comfort to the enemy, no?

    This piece from Carl Bernstein is as comprehensive as it is damning.

    From pandering to Putin to abusing allies and ignoring his own advisers, Trump's phone calls alarm US officials - CNNPolitics
     

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    Why the Mueller Investigation Failed | The New Yorker

    "Robert Mueller submitted his final report as the special counsel more than a year ago. But even now—in the midst of the coronavirus pandemic and the Administration’s tragically bungled response to it, and the mass demonstrations following the killings by police of George Floyd, Breonna Taylor, and many others—President Trump remains obsessed with what he recently called, on Twitter, the “Greatest Political Crime in the History of the U.S., the Russian Witch-Hunt.” In the past several months, the President has mobilized his Administration and its supporters to prove that, from its inception, the F.B.I.’s investigation into possible ties between his 2016 campaign and the Russian government was flawed, or worse. Attorney General William Barr has directed John Durham, the United States Attorney in Connecticut, to conduct a criminal investigation into whether F.B.I. officials, or anyone else, engaged in misconduct at the outset. Senator Lindsey Graham, of South Carolina, the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, has also convened hearings on the investigation’s origins.

    The President has tweeted about Mueller more than three hundred times, and has repeatedly referred to the special counsel’s investigation as a “scam” and a “hoax.” Barr and Graham agree that the Mueller investigation was illegitimate in conception and excessive in execution—in Barr’s words, “a grave injustice” that was “unprecedented in American history.” According to the Administration, Mueller and his team displayed an unseemly eagerness to uncover crimes that never existed. In fact, the opposite is true. Mueller had an abundance of legitimate targets to investigate, and his failures emerged from an excess of caution, not of zeal. Especially when it came to Trump, Mueller avoided confrontations that he should have welcomed. He never issued a grand-jury subpoena for the President’s testimony, and even though his office built a compelling case for Trump’s having committed obstruction of justice, Mueller came up with reasons not to say so in his report. In light of this, Trump shouldn’t be denouncing Mueller—he should be thanking him.

    The events that led to Mueller’s appointment began shortly after Trump took office, when he met several times with James Comey, the director of the F.B.I. Over dinner at the White House, on January 27, 2017, Trump said that he expected “loyalty” from Comey—specifically, as he would later make clear, he wanted an announcement from the F.B.I. that he was not under suspicion for misconduct with Russia during the campaign. At the time, Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national-security adviser, was being investigated for lying to the F.B.I. As Comey later testified, on February 14th, at a meeting in the Oval Office, the President told everyone else to leave, then asked Comey to drop the investigation of Flynn. “I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go,” Trump said. “He is a good guy.”

    Comey declined either to publicly clear Trump of wrongdoing or to close the investigation of Flynn, and the President resolved to fire him. On May 8, 2017, Trump told Rod Rosenstein, who had recently been confirmed as the Deputy Attorney General, to write a memo describing Comey’s performance as the F.B.I. director, in particular his handling of the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of private e-mail. The following day, Rosenstein submitted the memo and Trump fired Comey. Sean Spicer, the President’s press secretary, told reporters that the President had done so for the reasons stated in Rosenstein’s memo, but, as Trump soon confirmed in an interview with NBC’s Lester Holt and in a conversation with visiting Russian officials, the real reason was related to the Russia investigation.

    Rosenstein was distraught over how the White House had used his memo. Concerned about Trump’s firing of Comey, he named an independent prosecutor, now known as a special counsel, to look into a possible connection between the Trump campaign and Russia. (Jeff Sessions, the Attorney General, had recused himself from matters relating to Russia.) Rosenstein didn’t consider anyone except Mueller for the post. Mueller had both the skills and the bipartisan credibility that the job required. Having worked in the Justice Department during the Cold War, he hardly needed lessons on the malign intentions of the government in Moscow. Mueller had been a federal prosecutor in the nineteen-eighties, the head of the Justice Department’s criminal division during the George H. W. Bush Administration, and then, starting in 2001, the F.B.I. director for twelve years. Until May 17th, when Rosenstein named him as the special counsel, Mueller knew very little about the state of the Russia investigation. Andrew McCabe, who, as Comey’s former deputy, was the acting director of the F.B.I., invited Mueller to the J. Edgar Hoover Building for a briefing.

    At the first Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on the Russia investigation, on June 3, 2020, Graham opened the proceedings by saying, “It’s important to find out what the hell happened.” He wanted to know whether, when Mueller was appointed, there was any evidence that Trump’s campaign had been colluding with the Russians. McCabe’s briefing of Mueller, along with a subsequent meeting between Mueller and Rosenstein—neither of which has been previously reported—begin to address Graham’s question. These meetings demonstrate that, from the beginning, Mueller was instructed to conduct a narrow, fact-based criminal investigation."
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