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    Quote Originally Posted by steve garro View Post
    they almost always leave here with either a Fox or a Rock Shox Reba, unless fully non-suspended. Fox was kicking the shit out of everyone on the suspention front, but i have to say - the new RS feel *really* good. the negative air feature really lets you "float" in the travel, and if you want remote lockout RS has you covered. I've sent out a few of the new SID's on 26ers, and man - they are light, feel great, and are simple & easy on the eye. Likely, everyone had to up their game in the last few yrs. Sram has done a great job with RS, if they had not bought them they may be DOA by now - Garro.
    Cool - good advice. What seems the be the ideal travel for a fork used with a hard tail for general trail use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Kirk View Post
    Cool - good advice. What seems the be the ideal travel for a fork used with a hard tail for general trail use?

    Dave
    one you can stand over! I have this conversation with many clients, it goes like this: "I want a 140mm travel 29er fork" {they exist} "yes, but you only have a 31" inseam" "what does that have to do with it?" "well, it's a 29" wheel. you add 5.5" for travel, 1+" for the crown, over 1" for the headset, ~ 4.5+" for the headtube - now you are at 40" from the ground, unsprung - how can you stand over that? That's 9" higher then your crotch - it would have to be a 10" frame c-to-c with a straight toptube" "oh - OK, cool - how about an 80/100mm?" there's allot of things to consider, one of which is if the existing equipment will fit your body. If not, it may be telling you something very important. - Garro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steve garro View Post
    one you can stand over! I have this conversation with many clients, it goes like this: "I want a 140mm travel 29er fork" {they exist} "yes, but you only have a 31" inseam" "what does that have to do with it?" "well, it's a 29" wheel. you add 5.5" for travel, 1+" for the crown, over 1" for the headset, ~ 4.5+" for the headtube - now you are at 40" from the ground, unsprung - how can you stand over that? That's 9" higher then your crotch - it would have to be a 10" frame c-to-c with a straight toptube" "oh - OK, cool - how about an 80/100mm?" there's allot of things to consider, one of which is if the existing equipment will fit your body. If not, it may be telling you something very important. - Garro.
    I hear you. I see a good number of 29er's that look like they would have some serious top tube to balls conflict. call me lucky in this regard since I'm 6'4" tall and have long legs even for my height.

    Thanks for the advice - I have some designing to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Kirk View Post
    I hear you. I see a good number of 29er's that look like they would have some serious top tube to balls conflict. call me lucky in this regard since I'm 6'4" tall and have long legs even for my height.

    Thanks for the advice - I have some designing to do.

    dave
    stoked to see the outcome! - Garro.
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    Steve Garro, Coconino Cycles.
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    I just want to put out a big "thank you" to everyone who chipped in on the Coconino frame raffle! You all done good - Garro.
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    postcards from the edge! Years of bike touring - I'll try to dig up more while I am doing "winter cleaning" - Garro.
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    Looks nice! Does the middle horizontal tube serve any specific purpose other than aesthetics? Whether it serves to reduce torsion so you can use a smaller/thinner toptube or downtube? Thanks for sharing.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by sevencyclist View Post
    Looks nice! Does the middle horizontal tube serve any specific purpose other than aesthetics? Whether it serves to reduce torsion so you can use a smaller/thinner toptube or downtube? Thanks for sharing.
    Yes & No. It makes them quite stiff, but I do thin down the tubes - the "kicker" tube is only 1" x .028" {.71mm} Mostly an homage to the balloners & paperboys of yore that did so much to shape the early MTB bikes. Everyone who owns one {I think I have built ~10 cruisers} really loves them. never seen/heard of one for re-sale. My inspiration for them is a big list of bikes but the Schwinn Phantom & the early Cook's Bros frames really work for me - Garro.
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    Coconino Cycles World HQ Dec/2010 - nice paint from Spectrum, Green Machine, Last trout fishin' for 10' coconino cycles custom bicycles 928 774 7747 www.coconinocycles.com: Damn cool stuff - Shawn's bike outta here, Jeff bike looks badass, 36hrs of fun / Blown Out! - Garro.
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    Hi Steve,
    It’s crazy to think we may have run into each other 15+ years ago. It’s great to read your history

    I had a blast from the past over the weekend. On recent Saturday road rides I’ve spotted Zap & talked to him for a few minutes. He is quite a character but he was always great with support for trail building around here.

    I also wish your friend the best in his recovery.

    Greg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brick Top View Post
    Hi Steve,
    It’s crazy to think we may have run into each other 15+ years ago. It’s great to read your history

    I had a blast from the past over the weekend. On recent Saturday road rides I’ve spotted Zap & talked to him for a few minutes. He is quite a character but he was always great with support for trail building around here.

    Greg
    Whoa! Zap, huh? What is that cat up to? I wonder if he still carries around that ratty old Kokopelli designs camera bag my buddy Barry made for him. Last saw him in Crested Butte ~ 95'? - Garro.
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    It was nice to see my name in your queue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve garro View Post
    Whoa! Zap, huh? What is that cat up to? I wonder if he still carries around that ratty old Kokopelli designs camera bag my buddy Barry made for him. Last saw him in Crested Butte ~ 95'? - Garro.
    I didn't get a chance to ask what he's up to before he drifted back. Pretty cool, I remember that camera bag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by curtisvill View Post
    It was nice to see my name in your queue.

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    It's nice to have it there! Thank You!!!! - Garro.
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