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    Quote Originally Posted by false_aesthetic View Post
    Just listened to an interview with Mike.

    That dude seems rad and legit.
    He'a a very good friend of mine.



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    Wax on / wax off

    23lb one-speed with 29 x 2.6's

    Photo mash-up from 27 years ago

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    The view from the shop.

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    December.

    Looks like time off is over, building forks in anticipation of upcoming builds = let me know if there is anything I can build for you, no wait list and just one guy I need to call on Monday to kick off a F&F.
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    Still in Forklandia - on #3
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    Steve, Do you have any alignment dramas after brazing with a thru axle? As in length growth from the heat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by progetto View Post
    Steve, Do you have any alignment dramas after brazing with a thru axle? As in length growth from the heat.
    I'm not really getting what you're putting down = you mean does the ATC grow or something?

    It's the same as other forks but you have to really watch your fab process and keep everything tight, no slop allowed, you want everything to play nice and line up perfectly as the wheel goes where it goes and there it is.

    I did have Anvil make me a +2mm dummy for brazing, I think it's really important and when I take it out after brazing it's a perfect fit no bending the blades required, zero alignment is done as it doesn't need any.

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve garro View Post




    I'm not really getting what you're putting down = you mean does the ATC grow or something?

    It's the same as other forks but you have to really watch your fab process and keep everything tight, no slop allowed, you want everything to play nice and line up perfectly as the wheel goes where it goes and there it is.

    I did have Anvil make me a +2mm dummy for brazing, I think it's really important and when I take it out after brazing it's a perfect fit no bending the blades required, zero alignment is done as it doesn't need any.

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    Thank you for the information. I imagine you can't file a dropout to achieve wheel alignment if you use a through axle. You could fit a bush and re-drill but, as you state above, nothing like this should be necessary.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Jacobs View Post
    Thank you for the information. I imagine you can't file a dropout to achieve wheel alignment if you use a through axle. You could fit a bush and re-drill but, as you state above, nothing like this should be necessary.
    Exactly.

    There's no "fix" to mis-alignment or uneven heating - some people use a rear system that lets you rotate an insert to account for slop, but that's not my style - you could fix it with an involved thing like you mention, but that's not really sell-able.

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    No, I get it, tight mitres and even heat. I just thought there may be a fair amount of expansion with uni crown blades and big fillets.

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    I'm not really getting what you're putting down = you mean does the ATC grow or something?

    It's the same as other forks but you have to really watch your fab process and keep everything tight, no slop allowed, you want everything to play nice and line up perfectly as the wheel goes where it goes and there it is.

    I did have Anvil make me a +2mm dummy for brazing, I think it's really important and when I take it out after brazing it's a perfect fit no bending the blades required, zero alignment is done as it doesn't need any.

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    Quote Originally Posted by progetto View Post
    No, I get it, tight mitres and even heat. I just thought there may be a fair amount of expansion with uni crown blades and big fillets.
    Expansion?

    When bronze freezes it contracts - the only thing I can think of that changes if you know what you're doing WRT proper procedures is that you set your rake a few mm shy of what you want as it always adds 2mm to your rake, just like how I aim 2mm shy of BB drop I desire as it always contracts as it's brazed before the seat stays are added, your frame's effective top tube also shrinks about a mm or two if you have your tubes in the fixture in a relaxed state of no tension.

    So basically, I never have anything 'grow' or expand.

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    Don't know about that Mr. Steve. Your fruit trees and garden seem to grow and expand a lot every year. That and your fishing tales are as interesting as your occupation. Have a great Holiday season.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moke View Post
    Don't know about that Mr. Steve. Your fruit trees and garden seem to grow and expand a lot every year. That and your fishing tales are as interesting as your occupation. Have a great Holiday season.
    Cut down three peach trees, actually........did I tell you about my encounter with the Cortez Electric Ray?
    It was quite a shock!

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    I knew you were interested in renewable energy, but how much does it cost to feed that guy? Good one Mr. Steve.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moke View Post
    I knew you were interested in renewable energy, but how much does it cost to feed that guy? Good one Mr. Steve.
    I don't think it'd eat very much.....

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    HNY !!!

    16th year building.
    30th wrenching.

    Time it does fly
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    YEZ!
    Happy New Year to you too Steve.
    Time, it does all fly by. And riding makes us feel like we're flying.
    Love it.
     

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    Oh man.
    “I’m gonna ride the * out of that thing.”
    * = snot + shit

    & gotta ask, are you blasting tunes through vintage Klipsch speakers while you create out in the shop?
    sure looks like it :-)
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by treadonme View Post

    & gotta ask, are you blasting tunes through vintage Klipsch speakers while you create out in the shop?
    Hell Yeah !!!
    All four of them

    Boxing things for YOU this morning while rocking out

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