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    I hope I'll be proven wrong but top position in the GC looks already over. I fear we'll only watch a battle for the podium.
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    Hopefully Chaves shows form, he's looking good at the moment. After a rough patch it would be awesome to see him finish the year strong.
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    Contador is in fine form today. Hopefully he can keep riding strongly. He remains the most aggressive racer in stage racing.

    Tejay has fallen. Hopefully he isn't hurt too badly. Looks like he hit a pothole and his hand slipped off the bar.
     

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    TJ is 1:15 behind the Froome group. The Froome group is not putting in a blistering pace so there is a slim chance TJ can make up some time.
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    Ugh, he's getting beat up on this stage.
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    Rusty Woods is moving up one place every stage. At this rate, he'll be leading by the third week!

    Wouldn't it be nice.
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    What a guts by Contador again. Froome could have shown he is a great champion by riding with him. He did not.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by j44ke View Post
    Ugh, he's getting beat up on this stage.
    Sadly for Teejay GHRP-2 don't force the bike to stay upright. That second crash in the middle of the cars could have had some ugly outcome. Glad he made it through relatively unscathed.
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    Very impressive ride by Contador...If he can hold that form for another two weeks....Unlike the Tour de France where they have a week of flat stages and then half of the mountain stages don't finish at the summit, La Vuelta is not designed for a strong team to take the race early and then defend the jersey. Having taken the lead early, Sky is going to have their work cut out for them, especially if many of the stages feature racing like yesterday. It was on non stop from the gun.
     

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    I'm liking Juan Antonio Flecha's classic Colnago on Eurosport's stage finish recons.
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    Barguil is sacked from Sunweb's Vuelta team for disobeying team orders.

    Vuelta a Espana 217: Warren Barguil ejected by Team Sunweb - BBC Sport
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    What's up with George Bennett is he still riding?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by j44ke View Post
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    Froome is definitely front loading his effort on his GC rivals so far. This is such a bumpy Vuelta, even the non-mountain days have rolling 2 & 3 category climbs. If Froome takes a minute or more out of his top ten rivals by the end of the first week, what's in store for the remainder? They cannot all sit there for two weeks and just protect their positions. Someone has to light the powder keg. Right?...
    Hmm. I guess now we'll find out, eh?

    1 Christopher Froome (GBr) Team Sky 36:33:16
    2 Johan Esteban Chaves Rubio (Col) Orica-Scott 0:00:36
    3 Nicolas Roche (Irl) BMC Racing Team 0:01:05
    4 Vincenzo Nibali (Ita) Bahrain-Merida 0:01:17
    5 Tejay van Garderen (USA) BMC Racing Team 0:01:27
    6 David de la Cruz (Spa) Quick-Step Floors 0:01:30
    7 Fabio Aru (Ita) Astana Pro Team 0:01:33
    8 Michael Woods (Can) Cannondale-Drapac 0:01:52
    9 Adam Yates (GBr) Orica-Scott 0:01:55
    10 Ilnur Zakarin (Rus) Katusha-Alpecin 0:02:15
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    Quote Originally Posted by holliscx View Post
    What's up with George Bennett is he still riding?
    156th place in stage 9, 157th place overall.
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    Froome still has the 40K ITT to extend his lead too. So sad that AC had that one bad day. It being the Vuelta nothing is sure when the long mountain stages come, and the wear and tear of the heat and a long season show .
    Maybe Froome is like McGregor against Mayweather, "go hard at the start, because that is all I'm gonna have".
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by rwsaunders View Post
    Barguil is sacked from Sunweb's Vuelta team for disobeying team orders.

    Vuelta a Espana 217: Warren Barguil ejected by Team Sunweb - BBC Sport
    This is a problem with the 1 August contract signing business.

    People come out of the TdF bearing shiny new contracts post-1 August and it can led to recriminations. No way Sunweb would have taken him out of the race if he was still riding for them in 2017. Didn't Fulsgang get stood down as he was leaving a team a few years back?

    Then there is the Cannondale debacle. Post-1 August most teams have decided on rosters for next year. And then a team folds, or at least it looks like its going to fold, and people will be scrambling for jobs (riders and staff). Guess there is only so much a beard, argyle and large bottles of wine can accomplish (aside from maybe not winning anything decent for almost two years).
     

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    On the other hand as much as I like Barguill's fighting spirit he looks like someone who is very hard to manage. The fact he seems unable to grasp the idea of taking on domestic duties for other riders is a bit difficult to handle in an individual sport raced inside trade teams. Even the riders with the biggest palmares such as Sagan, Boonen, Cavendish, Kittel or Froome do their share of domestic work when asked to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sk_tle View Post
    On the other hand as much as I like Barguill's fighting spirit he looks like someone who is very hard to manage. The fact he seems unable to grasp the idea of taking on domestic duties for other riders is a bit difficult to handle in an individual sport raced inside trade teams. Even the riders with the biggest palmares such as Sagan, Boonen, Cavendish, Kittel or Froome do their share of domestic work when asked to.
    I agree. In 2011 Froome was riding the Vuelta a Espana with Wiggins as team leader. By stage 16, when it was clear that Froome was the strongest rider in the team, the leadership was given to Froome. The final result was 1st Cobo, 2nd Froome + 13 seconds, 3rd Wiggins + 1 min 39 seconds. Who knows what the outcome would have been if Team Sky had been riding for Froome instead of Wiggins earlier in the race? On the other hand Froome's subsequent career may not have been so successful if he had unilaterally started riding for himself during the first week of the 2011 Vuelta.
     

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    Watching Eurosport's recap in my Munich hotel while I rest for a bit. I much prefer bike racing coverage outside the U.S.

    Burned my mouth on a cup of Segafredo coffee in Iceland a few hours ago. Go Contador.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sk_tle View Post
    On the other hand as much as I like Barguill's fighting spirit he looks like someone who is very hard to manage. The fact he seems unable to grasp the idea of taking on domestic duties for other riders is a bit difficult to handle in an individual sport raced inside trade teams. Even the riders with the biggest palmares such as Sagan, Boonen, Cavendish, Kittel or Froome do their share of domestic work when asked to.
    I didn't understand Barguill's move to the continental team. Seemed like an emotional decision and not a sound business decision. These riders may only get one shot at signing a deluxe contract with one of these teams, so given a good performance like Barguill had, seems to me he should capitalize on it 100% and move up to an A+ team. So maybe while the outside impression was that he was at the height of marketability, the inside perspective was that he was going to be a problem for whichever team signed him. The continental team may have therefore been his only option and not one of many.

    It may also have been his only option where he wouldn't have to fulfill domestique duties for another star rider, which might be a more likely possibility. At a continental team, he'd be the top dog.
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