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    Quote Originally Posted by vertical_doug View Post
    Froome is 36 next year, well past his prime in my opinion. . .

    Now let's all watch the Vuelta. I've been enjoying this one... A little sad about France closing the door today, but whatever....
    Let's begin with a discussion of rain jackets. One thing about the season being almost entirely after the middle of the year is there is more rain in Europe. And more darkness. We've now seen riders tie themselves into knots trying to get their rain gear on or off. Winners in the rain gear race seem to be Castelli and Rapha. Losers appear to be whoever makes gear for Sunweb and Jumbo-Visma.
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    Watching daily on NBC Sports Gold. Loving that I can. Hard, hard race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j44ke View Post
    Let's begin with a discussion of rain jackets. One thing about the season being almost entirely after the middle of the year is there is more rain in Europe. And more darkness. We've now seen riders tie themselves into knots trying to get their rain gear on or off. Winners in the rain gear race seem to be Castelli and Rapha. Losers appear to be whoever makes gear for Sunweb and Jumbo-Visma.
    Maybe something to practice over the winter?......maybe it would have been better to stop and put the jacket on?
    the mental damage done, faffing around should not be underestimated either, not to mention it was a weakened moment for others to attack in the case of Roglic.

    It reminded me of the Sunday club run.......
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    Well I guess what makes the difference over the other years are the cold hands on these climbs at that time of the year. Not sure if we can rationalize bazed on gear brand from only 2 specific events but what is sure is the teams should provide gears with a much looser cut on items used in the fall/winter, these guys wouldn't have struggled that much if their jacket weren't so tight. Aero or not you have to adapt to the conditions, size it up!

    Having a soigneur on the side of the road and stopping 5-6 seconds to put the jacket on with his help is probably much more efficient than struggling for so long and risking a crash. At least for the leader of the team. And maybe train for it a few times ?

    I watched the last F1 GP for the first time in a while and the Red Bull Team can swap 4 tires on an F1 car in 1.8s and they train for it 30 minutes every day. Don't tell me a trained soigneur and GC leader can't put a jacket in less than 5 seconds if they rehearse it every morning before going to the podium for the signature.
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    I think the goal in design should be to not have to take off the jacket. That's why the Gabba Ros from Castelli, along with their new Nanoflex 3G warmers is a distinct advantage. You see Ineos at the end of the day and they are all (for the most part) still wearing their Gabba. Or the Perfetto Ros vest.

    Anyway, a 5 second lead on stage 6 seems like a big ask to defend anyway. Better maybe to let Ineos do the defensive work on the front? - except that's how Carapaz won the Giro last year. Slipped into the jersey and never took it off.
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    Grandpa Valverde is my hero. A total badass.

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    Yep he was dukeing it out Today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnmdesigner View Post
    Grandpa Valverde is my hero. A total badass.

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    Is that David Byrne?

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    Seems like Michael Woods played that perfectly. Imagine beating Omar Fraile on a stage like this? And Valverde, well I am sure Joaquim Rodriguez was chuckling at home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j44ke View Post
    Is that David Byrne?
    I think someone did a bit of photoshop on Valverde's face. It's a bit hilarious, b/c he won that race two days shy of his 37th birthday. He then followed that up by winning World's at 38. We chuckle, b/c the man most certainly benefited from something in addition to pan y agua

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    Real slug fest today. Unrelenting grades.

    God bless Dan Martin.

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    Nothing like watching Roglic fly up the hill followed by the commercial break of Captain Kirk washing out his breathing hose.

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    That finish was a blast. Great to see so many attacks and counters.

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    Another crash caused by an errant water bottle. The other day I saw one that appeared to be thrown across the road in the final few kms, by a rider no less, apparently trying to lighten his load. It skated across the road just a meter or so in front of the first riders of a wide group.

    That seemed perhaps an aberration but Geraint Thomas was taken out by a bottle on the ground and now yesterday another rider. It seems like these are not uncommon. I don't recall this being as frequent an occurrence though I do recall from my own competitive days that the occasional dropped bottle would pass right next to riders racing past.

    Not suggesting a solution but it does seem to be an area where improvements could be sought.

    In other news, Sam Bennet was relegated due to aggressive riding in the final KM. I witnessed this as it happened but shut the TV off immediately after the stage. His shoulder pushes were quite obvious, and fairly dangerous to my eyes, to get on the wheel he wanted.

    https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/sae...lmet-in-crash/
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    Judges initially gave Carapaz the same finish time as Roglic when Carapaz wasn't even in the top 10 and placed behind a rider who was timed as finishing 3 seconds later. But they appear to have corrected that now. Seemed pretty clear on my laptop but things are obviously more complicated on the ground. Roglic had to recite a passage from Cervantes, submit his favorite paella recipe, etc. etc. etc.

    I jest.
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    The weekend will be a slugfest.
    Perhaps we will see the 2 leaders duke it out like the old days.
    Just don’t bump shoulders more than once.
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    Jesus doesn’t seem to be too much enthusiasm here.
    Froome dragged Carapaz up the mountain and Sepp could have won the stage if he was on another team.
    The pictures were fabulous. Did any of you climb Mount Everest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnmdesigner View Post
    Jesus doesn’t seem to be too much enthusiasm here.
    Froome dragged Carapaz up the mountain and Sepp could have won the stage if he was on another team.
    The pictures were fabulous. Did any of you climb Mount Everest?
    Kuss seems to not know quite what to do when Roglic can't keep up - stay with Roglic or chase the GC rivals - but I guess that's what radios are for. He nearly left Roglic at one point in the TdF, but this time he realized Roglic wasn't there, slowed and waited. At any rate, he's obviously a seriously good climber and a super lieutenant to Roglic. Roglic owes him one of Alaphilippe's watches.

    Carapaz is the real deal. Pretty easy to think the Giro win was a fluke last year but he's definitely tough. Roglic's must have been repeating "rest day and time trial" to keep cool as Carapaz rode away from him.

    I thought Hugh Carthy was going to pull his arms off at the shoulders but damned if he didn't make it up that hill. Chapeau to him. Quite a ride. And Dan Martin too. Pulling for both of them to stay up there on the GC.

    I am looking forward to Stage 14 on Wednesday as that goes through Luis Prado's (Turkish here on VSalon) home territory and if his photos are any indication, that will be a beautiful stage.
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    Liking Hugh Carthy more after this article.

    https://www.cyclingnews.com/features...-distractions/
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