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    Default vittoria open pave to veloflex open pave

    almost worn out my rear vittoria open pave with 1500 miles
    just acquired a pair of veloflex open pave
    hope the ride is as good as the smell (ooooo, aaahh, so good)

    very different tires
    the vittorias are 24mm and 250 grams - made in thailand
    the veloflex are 22mm and 200 grams - made in italy

    vittoria tread seems more robust
    and indeed i did not flat through the entire 1500 miles
    we'll see about the ride quality, reliability and durability of the veloflex
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    The only things similar about the two tires are the model name and that the manufacturers' names start with "V". They are completely different tires meant for completely different uses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 11.4 View Post
    ...completely different tires meant for completely different uses.

    thanks 11.4 - i'll try to use them differently :)

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    I really like the ride of the Pave. Supple, compliant. While I will run tubs for CX, I'm still a clincher rider on the road.

    The tread can wear a bit quick and I suppose if one were a heavy rider moreso. While seeming delicate (and I do seem to get perhaps one flat a year) they will take some punishment. I'll often head off on gravel roads or on one occasion a road in rural Virginia that deteriorated into a creek bottom doubling as a road. No damage. But then I've taken the sidewall out of a Conit Gatorskin on a rural gravel road race.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dave1215 View Post
    thanks 11.4 - i'll try to use them differently :)
    Sorry, Dave, I didn't mean to sound odd about it. The Vittorias are bomber tires that you can use on crushed rock logging roads or on the worst chewed up asphalt in upstate Maine. I have never, ever had one fail on me. They tend to be grippy in the wet but also tend to give a little less sense of contact with the ground -- almost as if wobbly.

    The Veloflexes are quite a bit lighter, excellent road contact, and I have had very good luck with them although I have seen plenty of people who puncture chronically on them, or worse. If you tend to ding sidewalls, I'd stay away from them.

    Repair techniques on the two are a bit different -- any kind of boot on the Veloflexes has to be very thin and supple or it creates an awkward spot on the tire, but the tires tend to spread at even a relatively small cut so the boot needs to be very non-stretchy. Sailcloth repair tape works well for Veloflex cuts.

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    11.4,
    You may have said this before, but how much of the sail tape do you use relative to the size of the cut?
    thanks, I'll go away now.
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    The Veloflex tires are a wonderful selection for smooth roads where high-speed performance is valued in a sleek 22mm tire.

    Word-on-the-street is Vittoria might one day offer their awesome puncture-resistant Open Pave EVO CG bomber tire in both 24mm and 27mm sizes.
    The other news is they might be available both in traditional green (looks great on white, ivory, black, & titanium bikes...) as well as all-black.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Winded View Post
    11.4,
    You may have said this before, but how much of the sail tape do you use relative to the size of the cut?
    thanks, I'll go away now.
    ted.
    To really stick and not pull loose, I generally use a piece about 1x2 inches. I'm not shy about using a lot -- it prevents the cut from gaping open. The stuff will fold over and lie very flat and very thin, so I don't mind some folded-over overlaps as it sticks down to the inside curvature of the casing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Jays View Post
    The Veloflex tires are a wonderful selection for smooth roads where high-speed performance is valued in a sleek 22mm tire.

    Word-on-the-street is Vittoria might one day offer their awesome puncture-resistant Open Pave EVO CG bomber tire in both 24mm and 27mm sizes.
    The other news is they might be available both in traditional green (looks great on white, ivory, black, & titanium bikes...) as well as all-black.
    Vittoria Open Pave's are already available in all-black in 24 mm. They came out a couple years ago as a limited edition but there always seem to be some available when you need them.

    And Vittoria has the Open Pave in Europe in 27 mm, just like their 27 mm tubular. Both are hard to find in the US.

    And by the way, that green doesn't look good with any bike, regardless of color.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 11.4 View Post
    "...And by the way, that green doesn't look good with any bike, regardless of color..."
    Purely an opinion. This green-tired image borrowed from The Hampsten Blog looks just dandy from my viewpoint:
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    And now back to our earlier Veloflex programming!
    I'm partial to all-black in the Veloflex line-up of products. Definitely a quality choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 11.4 View Post
    Sorry, Dave, I didn't mean to sound odd about it...

    not at all, always a bullseye from you. :adore:

    i just want to experience things in a way
    to be able to explain and write one day
    as eloquently as you are able today

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    For me the Veloflex Paves are a lot like the Open Corsa EVO CXs. I have them both and I can't honestly say that I can tell the difference. They both roll nicely. Just got a new pair of the Paves, and they have the new, bold logo, which if nothing else looks pretty mean (like in the top photo of Blue Jays' post above). FWII, the tubular Vittoria Pave is conceptually similar the Veloflex Roubaix. I don't think that Veloflex makes a clincher equivalent to the Vittoria Pave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 11.4 View Post
    And by the way, that green doesn't look good with any bike, regardless of color.
    I would definitely agree with that. Nice tires though.

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    well, i finally changed out my threadbare tires today
    and took my spectrum out with the new veloflex paves

    wowsa, i was flyin' - nothin' could stop me!
    could it be the tires are 10% faster?
    or was i on such a high
    that my enthusiasm took hold of the ride?

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    For 2009 the Vittoria Open Corsa CX gets a redo, and a new casing,
    with 320 TPI, up from the current 280.

    The pricelist I saw also does NOT include the all blk 700x25 open corsa cx
    that is currently available. At this point, I'm not sure if that's just a distributor
    thing, or if Vittoria is going to have a new, maybe different tread version of
    the 25mm tire? but it's possible that a black 700x25 is gone. (wtf?)

    -g

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave1215 View Post
    well, i finally changed out my threadbare tires today
    and took my spectrum out with the new veloflex paves

    wowsa, i was flyin' - nothin' could stop me!
    could it be the tires are 10% faster?
    or was i on such a high
    that my enthusiasm took hold of the ride?
    u r planing atmo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpeedyChix View Post
    While I will run tubs for CX.
    good choice
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Jays View Post
    And now back to our earlier Veloflex programming!
    I'm partial to all-black in the Veloflex line-up of products. Definitely a quality choice.
    Gumwalls, atmo. Those colored treads get muy dirty.
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