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    i wanted to get the forum's opinion on choosing between veloflex record and carbon.

    thank you for your thoughts,

    shaner

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    Quote Originally Posted by shanerpvt View Post
    i wanted to get the forum's opinion on choosing between veloflex record and carbon.

    thank you for your thoughts,

    shaner

    I use the Veloflex Servizio Corse and like them very much. It's stupid, I know, but I just don't like all black tires.

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    The record tire is very special application tire, like for time trials.
    I wouldn't seriously consider using them on the road

    It's far too narrow, at 20mm wide, has a casing that's far too thin to be durable,
    and to get to 130 grams, the rubber is far too thin (about 1mm), which is why you can expect
    to get only 600 miles from a rear tire.

    I'd need to change them every 2 or 3 weeks!

    g

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    Grant, how 'bout the SC and the Carbon, what the diff? Thanks...!

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    If you want gumwall, get the crit. The carbon is all black. That's the only difference I know of. Both are excellent tires.

    -Eric

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    Quote Originally Posted by Catulle View Post
    Grant, how 'bout the SC and the Carbon, what the diff? Thanks...!

    http://www.veloflex.it/products_tubul_catalog.htm

    the SC is only 20mm wide,
    both the Carbon and the Criterium are 22mm (slightly different pattern treads)

    I find 20mm tires in any brand virtually unrideable on our choppy roads.

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    thank you all for your responese.



    Grant, this will be my first run at tubies......do you have any other suggestions in tire selection? i am leaning toward the carbon.

    thanks agian,

    shaner

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    Quote Originally Posted by shanerpvt View Post

    Grant, this will be my first run at tubies......do you have any other suggestions in tire selection? i am leaning toward the carbon.

    thanks agian,

    shaner
    what kind of riding are you using them for?
    what wheels are they going on?
    how much do you weigh?
    how many miles do you ride?
    do you plan on using them only for special events?
    what kind of roads do you ride on?
    how much does a flat tire matter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrantM View Post
    what kind of riding are you using them for? pleasure
    what wheels are they going on? - 32h white ind/ambrosio nemesis
    how much do you weigh? - 185-190 (sometime 180)
    how many miles do you ride? -my rides are usually 30-50 miles per, as life permits.
    do you plan on using them only for special events? - don't race
    what kind of roads do you ride on? - in town - pretty smooth, county roads can get rough w/ chip seal/cattle guards ect. (split almost 50/50)
    how much does a flat tire matter? it matters.
    thanks for the help!

    shaner
    Last edited by shanerpvt; 06-28-2008 at 02:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shanerpvt View Post
    thanks for the help!

    shaner
    Basically, if you want to go towards performance,
    these 3 are handmade in italy choices area 22mm wide:

    Veloflex Carbon or Criterium (tan)
    Gommitalia Platinum
    DedaTire Olympico (tan)

    I don't think i could tell the difference between any of them.

    Then you have a couple of 24mm choices:
    Vittoria Pave Evo CG
    Veloflex Roubaix

    These have a softer ride, good milage, minimal penalty to performance.

    then you have continental.
    there is the new GP4000 seamless tubular,
    which sits nicely on an old rim like the nemesis,
    which does not have a base tape channel.
    http://www.conti-tyres.co.uk/conticy...p4000tub.shtml

    I haven't ridden them myself, I found the Competition tubulars
    from conti quite harsh feeling, compared to the Italian choices.
    I rode comps for many years, but the softer compound they use
    these days does not get very good mileage.

    Continental uses a very tough nylon thread to make their casing,
    it's got the best durability of all tubulars in my experience,
    but for that toughness, the trade off is some smoothness.
    So maybe it's worth taking a flyer on the new GP4000,
    or you can never go wrong with an italian classic.

    g

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    Are the GP4000 tubs without the seam bulge any easier to mount on a rim? I used Contis in the past and they were always an absolute bitch to get on a rim. The nylon casing didn't help either, not allowing much if any stretching.

    Veloflexes go on like butta though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrantM View Post
    Basically, if you want to go towards performance,
    these 3 are handmade in italy choices area 22mm wide:

    Veloflex Carbon or Criterium (tan)
    Gommitalia Platinum
    DedaTire Olympico (tan)

    I don't think i could tell the difference between any of them.

    Then you have a couple of 24mm choices:
    Vittoria Pave Evo CG
    Veloflex Roubaix

    These have a softer ride, good milage, minimal penalty to performance.

    then you have continental.
    there is the new GP4000 seamless tubular,
    which sits nicely on an old rim like the nemesis,
    which does not have a base tape channel.
    http://www.conti-tyres.co.uk/conticy...p4000tub.shtml

    I haven't ridden them myself, I found the Competition tubulars
    from conti quite harsh feeling, compared to the Italian choices.
    I rode comps for many years, but the softer compound they use
    these days does not get very good mileage.

    Continental uses a very tough nylon thread to make their casing,
    it's got the best durability of all tubulars in my experience,
    but for that toughness, the trade off is some smoothness.
    So maybe it's worth taking a flyer on the new GP4000,
    or you can never go wrong with an italian classic.

    g
    Thank you, Grant. I really appreciate you giving me the run down. I have been really happy with the veloflex pave clinchers.......so, i think i will give the carbon or the roubaix (i haven't seen that tire before).

    shaner

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdaghisallo View Post
    Are the GP4000 tubs without the seam bulge any easier to mount on a rim? I used Contis in the past and they were always an absolute bitch to get on a rim. The nylon casing didn't help either, not allowing much if any stretching.

    Veloflexes go on like butta though.
    I mounted a set on some Ksyrium rims -- stretched them for a couple of days and they went on fine.

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