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    Default Upgrade, downgrade, or what? Campagnolo question

    My 2011 Super Record non-EPS 11-speed rear derailleur caught in the spokes and got shredded. Replacements are nearly $500. At that rate, should I upgrade to the 2018 11-speed? If so, what's the best/cheapest way? I can't find single right brifters. Pairs are expensive. The closest I find is a shifter body assembly (everthing but hood and brake lever), but see no confirmation if my 2011 lever or hood fits the assembly.

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    Default Re: Upgrade, downgrade, or what? Campagnolo question

    A Shimano Ultegra 5 piece group for $484.99?

    Kidding (sort of.) If you are thinking of upgrading the rear to the 2015+ design, the newer Super Record rear derailleur is $450 and then you'd have the cost of the shifter body and that's more than the cost of the 2011-14 rear derailleur. So if you are going to save money, either rebuild the derailleur itself, buy a Chorus rear derailleur, or put up a WTB post here and at Paceline and see what happens.
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    Default Re: Upgrade, downgrade, or what? Campagnolo question

    Perfect excuse to go to 12s !

    I am sure finding a used RD is pretty easy for little money.
     

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    Default Re: Upgrade, downgrade, or what? Campagnolo question

    Check out the eBay listings HERE.

    Perhaps the pricing will be more reasonable for you.

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    Default Re: Upgrade, downgrade, or what? Campagnolo question

    I would buy a used Chorus derrailleur.
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    Default Re: Upgrade, downgrade, or what? Campagnolo question

    All y'all are good people for helping. Except Lionel -- he's just hooking me on luxury. ;) Believe me, that 12sp is tempting. Next bike, for sure, when it's EPS.

    I mistakenly thought I had a mid-cage derailleur, but it's short-cage, making it much cheaper to find a 2011-2014 model. I'll go with that unless I find a deal on a newer version right brifter.
     

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    Default Re: Upgrade, downgrade, or what? Campagnolo question

    bikes are where I choose to not make rational choices. I'd go new. But if money really is an issue then the chorus rear derailleur makes sense fro the post above.
     

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    Default Re: Upgrade, downgrade, or what? Campagnolo question

    So over the weekend the Campagnolo website removed all the Record and Super Record 11-speed mechanical groupsets. I'm not sure if that simplifies choices or not. In any case, 11-speed mechanical Super/Record might become cheaper shortly.
     

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    Default Re: Upgrade, downgrade, or what? Campagnolo question

    If only one part of your rear derailleur is broken, it may be an option to replace that one part and keep the derailleur. In Belgium replacement parts for Campagnolo can be easily had. I'm not sure if that's the case in the USA however. To me that's one more advantage Campagnolo has over Shimano, every component can be repaired.
     

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    Default Re: Upgrade, downgrade, or what? Campagnolo question

    Someone is selling a Super Record group over on Paceline.

    When the 2015 groups came out, the 2011-14 rear derailleurs held their prices and then got a bit more expensive. There must not be a lot of back stock or something, and I expect the same might hold true for Record and Super Record 11 speed.
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    Default Re: Upgrade, downgrade, or what? Campagnolo question

    Same thing happened to me. The Chorus RD has the exact same mechanism except for the carbon cage and cover. My SR carbon cage and cover survived intact so like Colker suggested I bought a Chorus RD and swapped things over. I had my LBS swap the cage since it looks a bit tricky.
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    Default Re: Upgrade, downgrade, or what? Campagnolo question

    Quote Originally Posted by summilux View Post
    Same thing happened to me. The Chorus RD has the exact same mechanism except for the carbon cage and cover. My SR carbon cage and cover survived intact so like Colker suggested I bought a Chorus RD and swapped things over. I had my LBS swap the cage since it looks a bit tricky.
    That makes two of us. I never changed the cage though, I just cannabalized the RD from a crit bike I had with Chorus 11. (Chorus 11 was/is still one of the best bargains of all time imo.)
     

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    Default Re: Upgrade, downgrade, or what? Campagnolo question

    Been very happy with Athena, even the die-hard Shimano guys say "well, that does shift smooth..." If you're in Chicago, I bet there's a shop with a drawer full of mildly used stuff that would do the trick and not drain the 401k. Years ago, when I mashed the N. Record rear der on my Masi, the local guy said, "I have a nice little Suntour Superbe Pro I could throw on there..." 5000 miles later, I finally downgraded to a used Shimano. Both worked better than the original. Of course, life is more advanced and so more complicated now.
     

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    Default Re: Upgrade, downgrade, or what? Campagnolo question

    Quote Originally Posted by verbs4us View Post
    If you're in Chicago, I bet there's a shop with a drawer full of mildly used stuff that would do the trick and not drain the 401k.
    I'd love to find that shop.
     

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    Default Re: Upgrade, downgrade, or what? Campagnolo question

    Get a chorus. You won't now the difference unless you are looking at your bike.
     

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    Default Re: Upgrade, downgrade, or what? Campagnolo question

    Unrelated: I noticed that Campa 10 pull (2.8 mm) x shimano 11 Derailleur ratio (1.4 listed) equals to 3.92 mm where shimano 10 spacing is 3.95 mm.
    Looks like an almost perfect shimergo match if that is what you're after.
     

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