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    Default Re: Tour De France '18 (Incessant Spoilers and Postulations)

    Quote Originally Posted by beeatnik View Post
    This guy is (has transformed himself into) a pure sprinter:

    Last 3 Km of Stage 2 (218/tour-de-suisse)

    Last Km of Stage 3 (218/tour-de-suisse)


    In the Tour de Swisse stage 3, Sonny Colbrelli needs to learn how to hold a line. That was f'in dangerous.
     

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    From what little I saw of the stage, it looked fantastic. Easy to imagine a young Hinault steamrolling over the hills (and his opposition) in Brittany.

    Too bad Michael Matthews is out as yesterday's and today's stages would have suited his talents.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saab2000 View Post
    Cav has grown on me, but I think his day has come and gone. That said, I don’t think we’ve seen the last of him quite yet.
    Well until he wins, he always seems to have that period of grousing about this and that, his people are chattering in the press about some other rider or unfair route design, but then he wins one and it is all smiles and tears and happiness with lots of hugs and hand shakes and pats on the back.

    But if he doesn't get a win, you just hope out of frustration he doesn't try to squeeze in somewhere there isn't space enough for him to go. Friday into Chartres looks like his best chance at a win. I wonder if he doesn't get one before the rest day if he'll pack it in and head to back to Lucca.
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    I don’t know. Seems like the last big year Cav had was built on a huge season of track work on a Madison team with Wiggins. He had the speedwork in the winter and it showed in July. Weren’t they gunning for the olympics or the world championships or something?

    I haven’t seen him that committed (or that fast) since then.
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    I predict Cav is going to Cav before this is all over. I just hope Hammond and Aldag have some memory of embarrassing themselves and their team last year, and let the jury alone.

    In other news, Colbrelli makes me think of that Stallone movie.
     

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    Sadly, Cav should put on a Washington Wizard's jersey hire Kwame Brown to be his lead out man and then yell at him til he cries....
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    Dan effing Martin!
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9tubes View Post
    In the Tour de Swisse stage 3, Sonny Colbrelli needs to learn how to hold a line. That was f'in dangerous.
    I don't know if he had much of a choice with the photogs so close after the line.
     

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    Would someone - anyone - PLEASE stop these vapid Taylor Phinney video diaries? It's easily the worst thing shown on a Tour broadcast since the Vaughters pablum.

    I don't care how fast he is, he should never be allowed near a microphone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by King Of Dirk View Post
    Would someone - anyone - PLEASE stop these vapid Taylor Phinney video diaries? It's easily the worst thing shown on a Tour broadcast since the Vaughters pablum.

    I don't care how fast he is, he should never be allowed near a microphone.
    I bought NBC Gold and don't have listen to that annoying crap. Also, the two Australians on NBC Gold are great . Their analyses are spot on. The sprint finishes are really fun to watch. I could care less about "G.C."
     

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    Cav was positioned well today. The look on his face? Not so good. Then he chose not to follow Renshaw (I assume) before that crazy right hander and he was done. If he watches that replay a few times between now and the next sprint stage, he might want that one back bad enough to go for it next time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dpcompt View Post
    I bought NBC Gold and don't have listen to that annoying crap. Also, the two Australians on NBC Gold are great . Their analyses are spot on. The sprint finishes are really fun to watch. I could care less about "G.C."
    Thanks for the reminder - I just bought the NBC Gold pass and will use it exclusively henceforth.

    ETA: No amount of money is too much to be spared the younger Phinney's douchetastic persona.
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    More than just sex -and drugs and rock and roll coming from Amsterdam.
    Only 2 riders on the finish photo.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by beeatnik View Post
    That belief decimates the sprinter ranks to what, 4 guys? So there are only 4 true sprinters in the world: Kittel, Gaviria, Viviani and Greipel/Bouhanni/Demare (when on form). I mean who else has or can beat Sagan, even on a pancake flat finish.
    And Groenewegen, add him to the Greipel/Bouhanni/Demare 4th Best Sprinter Collective.

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    NED 1 GROENEWEGEN, Dylan (LOTTO NL - JUMBO) 5:43:42 (Best Low Countries Sprinter)
    COL 2 GAVIRIA RENDON, Fernando (QUICK - STEP FLOORS) (Not a climber)
    SVK 3 SAGAN, Peter (BORA - HANSGROHE) (Not a true sprinter)
    FRA 4 DEMARE, Arnaud (GROUPAMA - FDJ) (The other best sprinter in France)
    FRA 5 LAPORTE, Christophe (COFIDIS, SOLUTIONS CREDITS)
    GER 6 DEGENKOLB, John (TREK - SEGAFREDO) (1 Day Specialist Sprinter who never wins sprints)
    RSA 7 IMPEY, Daryl (MITCHELTON - SCOTT) (WTF)
    GER 8 GREIPEL, André (LOTTO SOUDAL) (This guy is the Best Simian Sprinter)
    ITA 9 PASQUALON, Andrea (WANTY - GROUPE GOBERT)
    GBR 10 CAVENDISH, Mark (DIMENSION DATA) (How many times did Cav beat Sagan?)
    GER 11 ZABEL, Rick (KATUSHA ALPECIN) (That last name)
    ITA 12 COLBRELLI, Sonny (BAHRAIN - MERIDA) (Not Viviani)
    NOR 13 KRISTOFF, Alexander (UAE TEAM EMIRATES) (so-called Sprinter)
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Of Dirk View Post
    Thanks for the reminder - I just bought the NBC Gold pass and will use it exclusively henceforth.

    ETA: No amount of money is too much to be spared the younger Phinney's douchetastic persona.
    I have to mention that over the many years I really enjoyed Phil and Paul. I remember Phil on "Wide World of Sports" in the '70's. After listening to Robby Mcewen and his partner, the Phil and Paul show is just old.
    i know a lot of you guys are from the east or south, but on the west coast we had this incredible radio sports announcer, Bill King. He was so good, you could picture the whole game listening to the radio. Robbie and his partner remind me of Bill King.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by j44ke View Post
    That concussion earlier in the year and the crashes could easily have a lingering effect until even now.
    Don't want to sound cynic, but to avoid crashes is part of a rider's talent.

    Has someone done a races/wins/crashes ratio? I bet that riders like Sagan, Nibali, Cancellara and a few others, will have a very high rank there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by classtimesailer View Post
    Cav was positioned well today. The look on his face? Not so good. Then he chose not to follow Renshaw (I assume) before that crazy right hander and he was done. If he watches that replay a few times between now and the next sprint stage, he might want that one back bad enough to go for it next time.
    I don't think he could have ever done it anyway. If put side to side in a sprint, my bets are all on Gaviria now, he's got a fantastic team and is very strong to begin with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beeatnik View Post
    And Groenewegen, add him to the Greipel/Bouhanni/Demare 4th Best Sprinter Collective.
    At the moment he's rightfuly one of the top picks on his own and a solid step up from Greipel/Bouhanni/Demare. On pure speed he's perhaps the fastest, but Gavira has a better team.

    And Sagan is Sagan and simply one of the most fantastic riders around
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    If Lotto Jumbo would put up a team just for Groenewegen he could have had more wins already. Hard to see they won't next year.
     

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    Two stages in a row to Groenewegen, Tony Martin out and Dan Martin's back in ribbons (on top of losing time). He (Martin) is going to be hating that cobble stage to come.
     

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