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    Default Re: Thinking about a canti-brake beer bike...

    Quote Originally Posted by woolly View Post
    Get some Paul brakes and a Paul Flatbed front rack to go with them!
    Does anyone still have a stock of Paul Flatbeds? I always thought they looked like the nicest of the front racks.

    Otherwise, I agree with a Wald.

    And basket bikes generally. Mine handled awfully, but it was still great.
     

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    Default Re: Thinking about a canti-brake beer bike...

    I once had a cool canti retired cross machine city beer bike.
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    Default Re: Thinking about a canti-brake beer bike...

    Quote Originally Posted by j44ke View Post
    Order one of these from Rivendell or go dig through the parts box at your LBS and get one. File off the doodad to fit threadless.



    Looks like this when you are done:

    You must be tracking my search history. This is remarkably close to what I have in mind, except SS.

    I do have some Campy wheelsets and a Chorus RD, though...

    For the sake of conversation - How do you shift a Campy 11 RD with a flat bar?

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    IRD power ratchets would work with Campy but only up to 10. One softer.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by yashkatsumi View Post
    I once had a cool canti retired cross machine city beer bike.
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    Yash, that is amazing. I don't know how you could be forgiven for no longer owning it, though.
     

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    Default Re: Thinking about a canti-brake beer bike...

    Quote Originally Posted by TTX1 View Post
    You must be tracking my search history. This is remarkably close to what I have in mind, except SS.

    I do have some Campy wheelsets and a Chorus RD, though...

    For the sake of conversation - How do you shift a Campy 11 RD with a flat bar?
    I knew someone who used Gripshifters. I think some sort of retrofriction shifter would be more useful.

    BTW, a nice accessory for a basket bike is a Flickrstand to keep your wheel from flopping over and dumping your bike and everything else. I don't think Flickstands are made any longer though. So maybe a velcro strap from the hardware store or something. Reflective strap for your pant leg that you loop around the wheel and down tube when parked.
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    I really regret it now. Especially since I have started to race cross again.

    Quote Originally Posted by zambenini View Post
    Yash, that is amazing. I don't know how you could be forgiven for no longer owning it, though.
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    Default Re: Thinking about a canti-brake beer bike...

    Blue Lug in Tokyo builds up these combos fairly regularly. Surly + Crust fork. So ugly you gotta love it. I think this would be my townie of choice.

    *SURLY* bridge club (XL) by BLUE LUG, on Flickr

    BTW, I am pretty sure the Crust fork also has cantilever bosses on it.
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    Default Re: Thinking about a canti-brake beer bike...

    They do urban bikes like few others. Must be one of the top Surly dealers worldwide, and they also sell a bunch of Crust bikes.

    Heresit:

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    Default Re: Thinking about a canti-brake beer bike...

    I may be not too far from a Blue Lug location in the future ... hmmm
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    Default Re: Thinking about a canti-brake beer bike...

    Quote Originally Posted by j44ke View Post
    They do urban bikes like few others. Must be one of the top Surly dealers worldwide, and they also sell a bunch of Crust bikes.

    Heresit:

    Yeah, that's the one. I wonder how many of their builds are done on spec. They are amazingly prolific, given their chosen niche. And they appear to be quite good at sourcing otherwise esoteric frames and parts from the US.

    Makes me wonder why there isn't a shop in the US, or even Portland, quite like this.

    Oh, I know there are a few Surly and Rivendell dealers that do it, but still not quite like Blue Lug.

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    Default Re: Thinking about a canti-brake beer bike...

    Quote Originally Posted by TTX1 View Post
    For the sake of conversation - How do you shift a Campy 11 RD with a flat bar?
    You don't. Get 10-speed Veloce flat bar shifters and they're the berries. Unfortunately Mrs. Aitch recently went back to drop bars and we liberated a set on the eBizzle, but they're out there. The ultimate daily double is pairing them with Veloce mini-vees but those are rare as hen's teeth. Yes we had those too.

    Regarding a townie with a front porter rack, I had one. The dual kickstand shown on the milk crate bike is some next-level shit, else your bike will fall over with a front load. Mine did many times before I got one of those. Also pay attention to the photos how they show how some of these bikes look really cool but put that basket waaaaaay out over the front wheel. not good. Keep yours low, back close to the fork crown, and under the bars. I attached a plastic Rubbermaid container to my porter rack and it was great to have a waterproof bin that I didn't have to tie stuff down in. Large enough for a 12-pack, secure enough for documents. I glued a mat of closed-cell foam rubber insulation to the bottom so stuff didn't rattle around.
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    Default Re: Thinking about a canti-brake beer bike...

    Blue Lug definitely seems to be a special bike shop. Seems like there is a particular aspect of Japanese bike ownership that includes careful selection of parts that are just-so. The morning peloton doing laps of the Imperial Palace were dressed to the cycling nines and their bikes were perfect. No sloppy bar tape. The only bikes that seemed to have a hard life were the mama-chari bikes with front and rear kid seats. Those bikes got worked.

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    Japanese people just can't grasp the concept of not going full premium for everything they own. My japanese sister in law used to commute on a Campy record equipped Bianchi specialissima road bike. She didn't knew shit about bicycle but even buying second hand you can´t end up on a low end frameset with a shimano 105 groupset. She just liked the celeste color.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sk_tle View Post
    Japanese people just can't grasp the concept of not going full premium for everything they own. My japanese sister in law used to commute on a Campy record equipped Bianchi specialissima road bike. She didn't knew shit about bicycle but even buying second hand you can´t end up on a low end frameset with a shimano 105 groupset. She just liked the celeste color.
    It's funny, the last thing I want in a bar/commuting bike is a bike I'd be reluctant to lock up outside the kind of bar that I like. The last one I had, I can't remember where I left it it, and I feel ok about that.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by lumpy View Post
    It's funny, the last thing I want in a bar/commuting bike is a bike I'd be reluctant to lock up outside the kind of bar that I like. The last one I had, I can't remember where I left it it, and I feel ok about that.
    Not sure what is the theft rate in Tokyo, that's the biggest parameter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lumpy View Post
    It's funny, the last thing I want in a bar/commuting bike is a bike I'd be reluctant to lock up outside the kind of bar that I like. The last one I had, I can't remember where I left it it, and I feel ok about that.
    Note the musculature of that lock on the Toei above.

    I'm not saying that bike theft doesn't happen in Japan, but I am guessing that its not the biggest market for Kryptonite Fahgettaboutit locks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j44ke View Post
    Note the musculature of that lock on the Toei above.

    I'm not saying that bike theft doesn't happen in Japan, but I am guessing that its not the biggest market for Kryptonite Fahgettaboutit locks.
    I also note it is only securing the rear wheel and fender. But that supports your point, too.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colinmclelland View Post
    FWIW when I added it to a bike not designed for it the extra weight up the front gave it some pretty special wheel flop I decided i didn't like (it was more about once you were off the bike than an issue riding. Whatever, the baskets are in the garage). YMMV.
    This. I put a Paul Flat Rack on a bike for a month many years ago. Hated it. Hated how the front end was heavy. Hated how it bounced my cargo all around as I rode. Hated how it affected handling at slow speeds. Hated how it made it difficult to lock up the bike in any of the front wheel first bike racks. Front wheel flop was really bad when walking the bike down the sidewalk with any load in it.

    Loved the idea of it. Hated using it. I mean, the Paul rack wasn't cheap. I invested. I had money on liking it. After about a month I realized I'd rather have my beers unshaken in a courier bag. I kept the beer run bike. Lost the rack. Seriously, the racks look great and seems like a great way to make use of an old classic bike, but a bag is a better way to go for 98% of what you'd be using the rack for (only exception I can think of is picking up a pizza). I mean, are you going to leave your beers in the basket while you run into the bagel shop at your next stop? If so, let me know where you live. I'll keep an eye on your beers for you....

    p.s. I've been running Paul's cantilevers on various bikes for years, they are well made, durable, rebuildable, reliable, and powerful (for what they are). I have a pair of Paul Stoplights on a 95 Stumpjumper that are even better, I wish he would bring those things back.
     

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