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    this stuff gets deleted from over the road
    too high brow for some. :hahaha:

    Cheers Dazza
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    Their loss, Dazza! Stunning. How are your fingers? :beerglass:
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    That beats chrome by a mile.
     

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    Very nice.:adore:
     

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    Nice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zank View Post
    Their loss, Dazza! Stunning. How are your fingers? :beerglass:

    G'day Zank,
    my fingers hold up fine
    but I get tendonitus in my elbow, shoulder :frown:
    but the most serious damage is done to my cranium :shot:
    after doing these jobs
    which take so long
    I need a break from this sort of stuff
    and do my normal stuff for a while
    till time eases the memory of the last stainless jobbie
    and then I do another one
    and the nightmare returns

    Cheers Dazza
     

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    dazza,
    business question.
    how much are you selling that frame for?

    i dont mind a none of yr business either.
    how is it remotely possible to make money doing this?
     

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    dazza- you've worked with some of the best athletes in the world, the babe ruths of thr aussie track renaissance, and some of the fastest techiest equipment in the world- tell me please how a shiny lug with a flame motif and candy paint relates to a bt stealth with an srm? is it sorta like those gp Moto guys who in their own time off the circuit cruise around on harley choppers? cause I appreciate the time and effort but I just don't get this bike.

    jerk
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerk View Post
    dazza- you've worked with some of the best athletes in the world, the babe ruths of thr aussie track renaissance, and some of the fastest techiest equipment in the world- tell me please how a shiny lug with a flame motif and candy paint relates to a bt stealth with an srm? is it sorta like those gp Moto guys who in their own time off the circuit cruise around on harley choppers? cause I appreciate the time and effort but I just don't get this bike.

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    I guess that in the end it's not for you to "get" but it's for the customer. I'll bet he'd be happy to build you one that you appreciate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerk View Post
    dazza- you've worked with some of the best athletes in the world, the babe ruths of thr aussie track renaissance, and some of the fastest techiest equipment in the world- tell me please how a shiny lug with a flame motif and candy paint relates to a bt stealth with an srm? is it sorta like those gp Moto guys who in their own time off the circuit cruise around on harley choppers? cause I appreciate the time and effort but I just don't get this bike.

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    I guess that in the end it's not for you to "get" but it's for the customer. I'll bet he'd be happy to build you one without the shiny bits that you'd appreciate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Kirk View Post
    I guess that in the end it's not for you to "get" but it's for the customer. I'll bet he'd be happy to build you one without the shiny bits that you'd appreciate.

    Dave
    no doubt dave- I'd still like to know dazza's thoughts....where does the race bike end and the gilding start? not to speak for others, but some hold modern lugged race bikes to be the epitome of an evolved modern race bike. I know dazza's been around and instrumental in the ais bike dvelopment program that has stressed technology and composites I its quest for faster bikes...I'm just wondering if he sees bikes like this one in that tradition or is it more a stylistic excercise...again like a custom chopper versus a motogp bike.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerk View Post
    no doubt dave- I'd still like to know dazza's thoughts....where does the race bike end and the gilding start? not to speak for others, but some hold modern lugged race bikes to be the epitome of an evolved modern race bike. I know dazza's been around and instrumental in the ais bike dvelopment program that has stressed technology and composites I its quest for faster bikes...I'm just wondering if he sees bikes like this one in that tradition or is it more a stylistic excercise...again like a custom chopper versus a motogp bike.

    I'd venture to guess you answered your own question, but far be it from me to speak for him.

    There is a place in this world for both. Looks like he does both real well.

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    nobody does it better...
     

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    That is absolutely stunning!

    Btw, loved seeing this one in the works...
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveP View Post
    dazza,
    business question.
    how much are you selling that frame for?

    i dont mind a none of yr business either.
    how is it remotely possible to make money doing this?
    G'day, no trouble to share the gossip
    I just cannot touch this sort of work unless
    $8,000 aud {approx}
    if it is export {No Goods and services tax}
    Pending details

    They take me about 200 to 250 hours of metal work and painting.
    Lots of details on these
    besides just shiney and a sweet Joe Cosgrove paint job
    I machine the seat stay plugs up from stock, even matching the double taper of the seat stays etc.

    I do a couple of these each year for export
    a few each year for local interstate punters
    After I have finished one, I feel like I have spent a winter in Antartica :cheers:

    Cheers Dazza
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    Stunning...it's a work of art and a labor of love, obviously. Whether it's a race bike or not isn't where it's at for me. My compliments.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerk View Post
    dazza- you've worked with some of the best athletes in the world, the babe ruths of thr aussie track renaissance, and some of the fastest techiest equipment in the world- tell me please how a shiny lug with a flame motif and candy paint relates to a bt stealth with an srm? is it sorta like those gp Moto guys who in their own time off the circuit cruise around on harley choppers? cause I appreciate the time and effort but I just don't get this bike.

    jerk
    Good question
    my thing is
    I like all bikes
    they all have a place
    These are not race bikes in the sense of austerity
    but can be ridden just like any other race bike, and many are!
    and the metal work for me,
    well
    I think it is more about the challenge to myself
    this stuff gets all the attention
    but 90% of what I make is
    Lugged steel frames {only} with the only stainless on them is the dropouts and braze ons, such as FD mount and cable stoppers and head logo.
    The owners trip on the fact that every one at the coffee shop has to touch the lugs, like moths to a bright light.
    I like getting away from the race scene these days
    too much commercialism and consumerism in a manner that I do not enjoy.
    Making bikes to fill sales quotas is not me

    Cheers Dazza
     

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    thanks dazza- great answer!

    jerk

    ps raise your prices.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazza View Post
    I like getting away from the race scene these days
    too much commercialism and consumerism in a manner that I do not enjoy.
    Cheers Dazza
    This is the best answer for getting a lugged frame that I've heard of. Carbon is a wonder material but the "new developments" that come down the pipeline with regularity are full of BS.
    Having recently polished a stainless set of Dazza's Lugs, I can honestly say that this man's work is the pinnacle of what is possible with the materials given.
     

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    Dammitohell, now I gotta shine up some more stainless. Just dammit:willy:...and don't worry it's not lugs.

    Dazzling Dazza strikes again!

    :adore:Thanks for sharing Grand Master McCulloch. Superb as always.:adore:

    Knock back a red fer those achy bits.:beerglass:
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