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    Apparently, he crashed in a race:

    The Rob English Fund | RKP

    Sucks to hear, wishing him a speedy recovery.

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    Default Re: Rob English

    No offense to Rob and I hope he heals quickly but does he not have health insurance or disability insurance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by boots2000 View Post
    No offense to Rob and I hope he heals quickly but does he not have health insurance or disability insurance?
    even with those, there are sure to be large out of pocket expenses for the deductibles and portions of care not covered. you live in America, right? when was the last time your insurance(s) said "no problem, we'll take care of 100% of these bills."

    I've always admired his bikes. Only seen two (owned by the same guy) in person but they were both stunning in their simplicity, creativity, and functionality.

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    Default Re: Rob English

    This is terrible news.

    I emailed Rob two days ago as I just got delivery of my bike from him and took it for its first ride and wanted to say thanks. He didn't reply immediately (as he normally does) and this is why. . . Awful.

    Has anyone else had a bad crash in America with insurance and gone through the process and know what the personal costs end up being? (I will definitely donate regardless).
    Tom Walshe

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomW View Post
    Has anyone else had a bad crash in America with insurance and gone through the process and know what the personal costs end up being? (I will definitely donate regardless).
    Depends on the scenario, who was at fault, etc. That said, in my experiences, having insurance is better than not, though that still won't even come close to making it an inexpensive endeavor.

    My thoughts go out to Rob. All the best for a speedy recovery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomW View Post

    Has anyone else had a bad crash in America with insurance and gone through the process and know what the personal costs end up being? (I will definitely donate regardless).
    I crashed two years ago and broke a collarbone. I am very fortunate to have excellent health insurance through my employer and my co-pay was very low, less than $100. There was no surgery involved or any complications so the costs were the ER visit and x-rays and a couple visits to an orthopedic doctor who examined me.

    But believe me, I'm very grateful to have such good insurance at a time when others do not. Best wishes to Rob English. I've seen his bikes at NAHBS and will be looking at the link to find out about donating.
    La Cheeserie!

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    For someone self employed its being out of work that costs the most outside of immediate medical bills. Rob gets paid when he delivers a frame. If he's laid up not working not only does the cash flow stop, but the bills still keep coming.

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    That is why I asked about disability insurance.
    It seems like you would want disability insurance if you participate in a potentially dangerous sport (like
    we all do), and your livelihood depends on health/mobility.
    Should be mandatory for a framebuilder who plans to be in it for the long haul.
    Health insurance, business insurance, and disability insurance for that matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomW View Post


    Has anyone else had a bad crash in America with insurance and gone through the process and know what the personal costs end up being?
    I did, and the answer is "Everything you have."

    We basically started with zero.

    Mind you, even with being crushed with a broken neck, broken back, powdered femur & tons of internal injuries I got hurt Oct 5 and went back to work on 12/25 with three drains & a bag, so I went back to work - I had to - bills don't stop.

    The cost ran into the millions……
    We had just got insurance and bumped up to "Grownup Status"
    We kept the house, thankfully.
    And the shop.

    You just have to pick up & get back at it.
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    You are so amazing...I feel like I am not back mentally or physically from a simple, non-displaced femur break in 2012.

    Quote Originally Posted by steve garro View Post
    I did, and the answer is "Everything you have."

    We basically started with zero.

    Mind you, even with being crushed with a broken neck, broken back, powdered femur & tons of internal injuries I got hurt Oct 5 and went back to work on 12/25 with three drains & a bag, so I went back to work - I had to - bills don't stop.

    The cost ran into the millions……
    We had just got insurance and bumped up to "Grownup Status"
    We kept the house, thankfully.
    And the shop.

    You just have to pick up & get back at it.
    - Garro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesand View Post
    You are so amazing...I feel like I am not back mentally or physically from a simple, non-displaced femur break in 2012.
    I blew mine into over 27 countable pieces.
    It's still sore 9yrs later, it's Ti with the shards around it, which fused into some kind of knotted, bumpy old branch, it shoved out of my body in two places & I almost bled out internally & externally.

    The torn liver, split kidneys, punctured lung, torn eureter, bruised adrenals and spleen and every broken rib didn't help.

    I don't even think about it, it was a data point long passed.

    Help all you can for Rob, it's a life changer.
    He's going to have a tough year if the injuries are of the extent I had.
    If his toes wiggle and hands grab that's absolutely wonderful, everything else is gravy.
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    Well put Mr. Steve. And yes his bikes are beautiful.

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    What happened to you Steve?
    I know that you're in a wheelchair now, but no idea what put you there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul View Post
    What happened to you Steve?
    I know that you're in a wheelchair now, but no idea what put you there.
    I was hit by a truck on my bike almost 9yrs ago.
    That's about as deep into it as I want to go, I just wanted to answer the Q of "what will it cost?"
    Careful out there, everyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steve garro View Post
    I was hit by a truck on my bike almost 9yrs ago.
    That's about as deep into it as I want to go, I just wanted to answer the Q of "what will it cost?"
    Careful out there, everyone.
    - Garro.
    Don't think you need say anymore than that Steve
    Cheers

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    I know it's a drift from the OP and the poor mr. English now; but how comes that one nation does not take care of his own inhabitants (and tax payers)?
    Seriously, I'm pretty baffled and don't know how it works "there", if you have an accident and no insurance, you're left to die??
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    It doesn't work here- it's not a good system.

    Rob has made some progress but is still in a rough spot right now. Hoping he can be moved from the ICU soon.

    All my best to Rob and Misha- if you are moved to help out I'm sure they would appreciate it.

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    Default Re: Rob English

    Is Rob English not English, when I worked in the USA it was UK insurance that covered me for overseas I had to have it as legals etc health getting were not covered by US firms for non naturalized citizens. Even with an H1 i was not covered nor could we find insurance in case i did get hurt some would not cover naturalized immigrant status with prior health conditions either

    I dunno about his situation i hope it aint nothing like that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gattonero View Post
    I know it's a drift from the OP and the poor mr. English now; but how comes that one nation does not take care of his own inhabitants (and tax payers)?
    Seriously, I'm pretty baffled and don't know how it works "there", if you have an accident and no insurance, you're left to die??

    not at all ... if you have an accident and have no insurance, you are fixed at first basically maximally but once you are very very likely to live the quality if care changes with your ability to pay. you will be left broke. but at least now insurance at a basic level is being mandated rather like a tax, says SCOTUS.

    oh, and ps, get better rob.

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    Default Re: Rob English

    Was about to reply about health insurance/etc, but I don't think is fair in this thread.

    All the best
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