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    How on earth did QR's ever really become a thing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pdxmech13 View Post
    How on earth did QR's ever really become a thing?
    Well at some point in history there wasn't any other way to have a light bike and being able to change gear but to swap the flip-flop rear wheel direction. In a racing context it was slow. I think it was Tulio Campagnolo who invented the thing out of frustration. A Thru-axle system would have been simpler to design but it wouldn't allow to adjust chain tension on those flip-flop wheels.

    The irony is he reused some of it to build the cambio-corsa which was one of the earliest gear shifting system targetting race bikes.
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    Default Re: Quick Releases

    QR's replaced the previous fastening system for wheels which was to use two large wing nuts tightened onto the ends of the axles. QR's were a great improvement on that.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by pdxmech13 View Post
    How on earth did QR's ever really become a thing?
    I sense there is more to your question. Is this an argument for or against them?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by pdxmech13 View Post
    How on earth did QR's ever really become a thing?
    Since the quality went downhill?
    Had twice a loose wheel this year on the MTB.
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    shimano, campagnolo/fulcrum internal cam skewers do not come loose easily. trials riders used to use dura ace, i've heard. ultegras are just as good, except a plastic nut, usually.
    mtb may be a different beast. I have some XT QR skewers though on my MTB and have never had a problem with anything coming loose on a rigid disc setup.

    QR's are great. Lawyer tabs...
     

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    Paul's and Shimano over the course of 35 years of riding in the woods.

    Don't think I ever had QR come loose
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    +1 on never having a quick release loosen, even with disc brakes. There are a few tricks, like proper tension and making sure it's not closed against a stay or fork blade (first so it goes over center, and second so you can pull it open again).

    In demonstrating how to use QR's to scouts, I install a front wheel on a fork clamped in a work stand, and challenge them to remove it with a baseball bat. The wheel has never come out, the rim is always destroyed. Fork crowns and work stands have taken a few errant hits.

    For me it's Campagnolo or Shimano (I think ALL their designs are internal cam). The only external cam I'm OK with is Salsa because it's got a lot of over-center and it's available in tandem length. No titanium, steel only.

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    I for one canít understand how people canít figure them out and do them properly. I worked in a shop and saw more QRís turned into wing nuts that QRís done correctly. I still see the odd bike riding around NYC with the QR lever backwards. It just isnít that complicated.
     

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    BTW, the only skewer i had come loose was a KCNC external cam uber light Ti shaft weight weenie thing.
    to get it to not creak, I thought I needed tension. Near the top of a climb, I noticed it was totally open on the front. Uh-o. Luckily I caught that before a pothole on a descent, or I would definitely have even stronger opinions about quick releases.
     

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    I have had external cams get loose. They suck. I'm on the Shimano or Campy QR bandwagon.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by thollandpe View Post
    For me it's Campagnolo or Shimano (I think ALL their designs are internal cam).
    While most Campy are internal cam, they did make some external cam - look at the first one in this pic.
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    My gravel bike (Coconino) has QR's, Steve talked up the Hope versions and they've been flawless. One thing I did learn and I can't fully explain is having the lever on the drive side on the front wheel (disc brake) instead of the traditional side. Don't know why, but I'd get a little disc vibration with the QR lever on the left. MTB (Coconino) is boost, it has through axles. All my road bikes are either Campy or Shimano QR. The only time I've had a QR loose was following a crash in a road race and I'm pretty sure it was hooked. Rear wheel, vertical dropout, I fixed it at the top of a climb.
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    The ones I had come loose are cheapish -external cam that I did not check for a couple of rides.
    Never thought I see the day I appreciate lawyer tabs, but once they saved my butt ...
     

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    A ritual I truly enjoy is unboxing any new set of (non-Shimano or Campy) wheels I get, tossing the stock QR's, and replacing them with often butt-ugly mid 90's Shimano QRs, regardless of whether they're old DA or even Tiagra for that matter (If I had any Campy stuff, I'd use these QR's as well).
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    I never had a QR come loose but I have a frame whose dropouts are so slippery that any wheel will eventually slid out at some point unless you overtorque the QR. On these bike a regular QR, even a shimano one, won't do the trick. I have to use a DT RWS (but stripped the threading of one once when I desperately tried to make it pull a kid's trailer).
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    Quote Originally Posted by skouri1 View Post
    BTW, the only skewer i had come loose was a KCNC external cam uber light Ti shaft weight weenie thing.
    same. but it was after a crash in a CX race, so I'm not 100% sure it was the QR's fault. but I immediately swapped those QR's out for Shimano anyway. I use Shimano everywhere except on my Mavic wheels, as I find their QR's to be quite solid as well.
     

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    As others have noted, with rare exceptions the only quick releases that work reliably are Campy, Shimano and Mavic. Since most wheels now are some shade of boutique, or they incorporate some type of hub that comes without a quick release it is amazing how many ineffective after market quick releases there are out in use. Like putting a man on the moon, it seems to be a technology that is largely been lost by civilization. To add further insult to injury it seems as if the whole technology will be abandoned anyway as the industry pushes toward the standardization of through axles. Tullio Campagnolo must be rolling over in his grave.
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    what is this tread about?

    were't we all brought up on the story about campagnolo himself with frozen hands and frustrations about not getting his wing nuts off on the way up a mountain with a flat tire? QR's came around to facilitate quick wheel changes; and the good ones work very well. Any of the ones with external cam and a plastic mating surfaces do suck.

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    Thru Axles came before the quick release.
    Drop outs were a later invention, that led to q/rs

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