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    Default question for lugged framebuilders

    how important is it for you to customize your lugs? some is fashion and some is function? what's your approach?

    [photos from jp weigle flickr site ---> http://www.flickr.com/photos/49353569@N00/]
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    Quote Originally Posted by dave1215 View Post
    what's your approach?

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    Gestaltmo...
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave1215 View Post
    how important is it for you to customize your lugs?
    some is fashion and some is function?
    what's your approach?
    Maybe give some photo credit. Poached from Peter Weigle's flickr site.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EnginCycles View Post
    Maybe give some photo credit. Poached from Peter Weigle's flickr site.
    thanks, original post edited to show photo credit. sorry, i didn't mean to suggest those were my hands.

    wow, you've got a tough job getting everyone to reference the source of all photos posted on the vsalon.
     

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    i'm not nobody, but shoreline work must always be done...and a builder with a belly to fill isn't going much further than that unless the customer is paying for it. at that point the customer gets a little input.

    but then there's dazza who must carve hearts into everything.






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    Generally speaking we do at least something. Clean up the shorelines, smooth a curve, something.

    Then there's full reconstruction.









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    Default not always hearts

    but there has been a couple of times I did not stop as I tried to tell a story in three lugs.
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    Default to sate my desires and some times for function

    All the lugs that I use have some small rework done to them, not always noticable, and some times the lug is reworked to make it work better in the build
    but then there are the ones that get the treatment.
    For me it is enjoyable, putting my flavour to the work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazza View Post
    but there has been a couple of times I did not stop as I tried to tell a story in three lugs.
    Pulls on shades.Youzza
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazza View Post
    ...tell a story in three lugs.
    when is a bicycle more than a bicycle? when it comes from oz, nice!
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dazza View Post
    but there has been a couple of times I did not stop as I tried to tell a story in three lugs.
    The story of the cosmos.

    Conor
     

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    fantastic work dazza, you too conor. simply stunning.

    lugs and paint--where the artist can have nearly free run. the rest is engineering and fab skilz. great machinery these bikes.






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    We gave up on stock lugs years ago and only make our own now. All of our lugs start out at exactly the angle they need to be, so we don't need to do any bending, etc. When a customer wants a compact or we are building a tandem, it is a real help.

    The other advantage for us is that we can shape all of our lugs to look "right" even when the angles are really odd. Our style is very simple, kind of somewhere between a Prugnat long point and a James. There just aren't any options out there for us unless we build our own.

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    All made from scratch. I also like them simple

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    If I ever get another lugged bike, I am going to ask for the angriest lugs ever made. Forged in the depth of Mordor kinda lugs with the breath of satan.

    that would be sweet.
    we are about to break the surly bonds of gravity and punch the face of God!

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    Quote Originally Posted by acotts View Post
    If I ever get another lugged bike, I am going to ask for the angriest lugs ever made. Forged in the depth of Mordor kinda lugs with the breath of satan.

    that would be sweet.
    Like the Pick of Destiny in the movie Tenacious D. I have already drawn up the lug of Destiny.

    Hand forged from the fires of hell.....Look for it next year at one of the shows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Kellogg View Post
    ...only make our own now...Helps?

    yes, that's certainly sounds like an approach that would provide the max flex in frame design - angles and tube diameters - for your magic carpets.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnginCycles View Post
    ...All made from scratch...

    drew, wow, so that's brazed tubes inside tig welded lugs?

    double work but you get exactly what you want/need for the customer?

    [btw, i love your headbadge]
     

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