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    Default Pros don't descent very fast.

    Despite what I'm seeing on TV/TdeF [I read on the Internet] that the Badger wants them to go slowly and amateurs would kick their asses.

    Um, yes and I'm riding in the next Kentucky Derby.


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    Default Re: Pros don't descent very fast.

    Wait, the Badger said that they should go slower or... wait what did he say?

    Regardless, I'll agree that their descending speed (not skills) suck because they don't weigh enough.
    Maybe if they ate a burger once in a while, or had a motor in their down-tube, they'd improve. ;-)
     

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    Default Re: Pros don't descent very fast.

    they should have switched to 40s at the top.
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    Default Re: Pros don't descent very fast.

    Quote Originally Posted by zank View Post
    they should have switched to 40s at the top.
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    Default Re: Pros don't descent very fast.

    I find the inverse is true - I ascend better when I drink the malt beverage at the bottom of the mountain.

    Hey Distrubed - don't talk me out of drinking a beer next time I'm 40 miles from home. I needed it.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by soBRIquet View Post
    Wait, the Badger said that they should go slower or... wait what did he say?

    Regardless, I'll agree that their descending speed (not skills) suck because they don't weigh enough.
    Maybe if they ate a burger once in a while, or had a motor in their down-tube, they'd improve. ;-)
    Engage recall please.....

    Jan H wrote:......Regarding the handling, the “pro racers don’t descend at the limit of adhesion” actually was a quote from Alex Stieda, the first North American to wear the yellow jersey in the Tour de France. He told the story how he tried to make up positions in the bunch on a descent, only to have Hinault's lieutenant ride up and tell him to "stop risking lives.........."


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    Default Re: Pros don't descent very fast.

    Quote Originally Posted by EddieBirdsell View Post
    I find the inverse is true - I ascend better when I drink the malt beverage at the bottom of the mountain.

    Hey Distrubed - don't talk me out of drinking a beer next time I'm 40 miles from home. I needed it.
    Well when you guys decide to roll at 23mph on a double gap ride I figure you're big enough to make correct decisions. My beer that day tasted WONDERFUL!


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    Default Re: Pros don't descent very fast.

    I'd like to see Heine try to follow Sammy Sanchez down a descent

    please, stop putting that nut's credibility on life support. so stieda told him that story. nobody takes risks in the bunch on early decscents. duh. now please go talk to sean yates about how pros descend the final climbs while trying to keep in the time limit or rejoin the bunch to work for a gc rider. or talk to the gc riders about taking risks on descents to take time out of their competition.

    of course, frederic vichot or sean kelly never tested the limits of tire adhesion...especially on the poggio...but I digress....

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    Default Re: Pros don't descent very fast.

    Quote Originally Posted by Disturbed View Post
    Engage recall please.....
    Got it.
    My selective memory was being... well... selective.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by soBRIquet View Post
    Got it.
    My selective memory was being... well... selective.
    Just being sarcastic. Like someone is supposed to remember every word posted around here......


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    Default Re: Pros don't descent very fast.

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    Default Re: Pros don't descent very fast.

    I believe Mr. Jan H. is also taking Stieda's comments out of context. When a pro takes a descent "easy", relatively, that's faster than most of us can probably go.

    Michael Barry's "Le Metier" talks about descending in training faster than most cycling enthusiasts are comfortable with. Some of you are familiar with his dad, Mike Sr. If there's anybody who epitomizes rando/audax riding at its best, it's Mike Sr. He's also an adept cross rider, and I've seen him handle his bike superbly. In a related story, he talked of trying to keep up with Michael and his wife, Dede Demet (Silver Medalist, Women's Road Time Trial, Athens Olympics) on a high mountain descent while training in Europe. Not a chance - both his son and daughter-in-law disappeared out of sight.

    Michael and Dede are solid elite-level bike handlers. Now imagine taking it to another level, with crazy descenders like the aforementioned Sanchez, or a Sean Yates, or a Frederic Vichot. Your average cycling enthusiast wouldn't stand a chance.
     

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    Exibit B:



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    Default Re: Pros don't descent very fast.

    anyway

    my vote for best descender is sammy sanchez

    rare talent -- little guy who drops like a stone downhill

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    Default Re: Pros don't descent very fast.

    Yates and Salvoldelli are the two relatively recent legends of descending. Who else belongs on the list?
     

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    Default Re: Pros don't descent very fast.

    Ill vote for Henrich Haussler after watching him win stage 13 in the rain in last years tour
     

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    I once raced in a race in Switzerland which included Beat Zberg and as luck would have it we descended close to each other and I was able to more or less keep up. I was pleased. Going uphill was another story altogether. But that all took place in a galaxy far, far away in a time long, long ago.
     

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    Default Re: Pros don't descent very fast.

    I would think they would hit much higher speeds than 60mph on some descents. I hit close to 55 mph on a descent in a race in Connecticut (obviously without any real corners to negotiate) and that was nowhere near the length or steepness of what the pros have to negotiate.
     

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    Default Re: Pros don't descent very fast.

    Wasn't LeMond a pretty good descender? That video of Fabian looked impressive.... it was a good thing he wasn't riding that Pegoretti doing that, right....
     

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    Default Re: Pros don't descent very fast.

    Grant Petersen is said to be the fastest guy down Mt. Diablo. I out-descend serious roadies all the time, but if I'm going to go through all the trouble to ride up a hill, then I'm at least going to have fun on the way down.
     

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