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    Default No nonsense 1x11 HT 29ers

    No SRAM please, XTR or XT

    Looking for killer value no holds barred lightweight xc race machines

    Two that catch my eye aesthetically are:

    Orbea Alma M-team ($$$)

    Cube ELITE C:68 (2x11)

    Ride road and cx but get weak in the knees every time I see a HT lately

    Fat City pulls at my heartstrings because I was a little young when the mtb scene was blowing up in Atlanta and everyone rode Fats early 90s

    Used to ride an $800 steel / alu lugs Raleigh mtb in college that was pretty sweet with Deore or Deore LX but that was a couple decades ago. But for $800 that bike was a freaking blast and I don't remember it being heavy either. Everyone I know who rides mtb says if you buy one bike to get FS but I just can't. I feel like HT doesn't date as quickly, easier maintenance, and just riding fat tires w mtb gearing will be enough. Possible I might try xc racing or some endurance events.

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    Default Re: No nonsense 1x11 HT 29ers

    From a guy who bought a light HT and a light FS in the last year. I would for sure go 2x, in particular around Barcelona. I would also take a really hard look at lightweight FS.
     

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    Default Re: No nonsense 1x11 HT 29ers

    Not sure how tall you are.
    I would try a 27.5 as well.

    I'm 5 10 and have a 29er.
    Tried a 27.5 last year and wish I had one.
    Much quicker to turn.. you can flick it.
    I'll prob get one as fall approaches.
    Has to be shimano for me also.

    Long time sram hater here.
    Last mt bike I got came w sram.
    I bought an XT group and gave the sram stuff to a shop guy for switching it over.
    Good value to me.
    XT stuff is flawless.

    Depends on the trails you will ride also.
     

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    Default Re: No nonsense 1x11 HT 29ers

    Quote Originally Posted by SteveP View Post
    Not sure how tall you are.
    6'1 1/2" / 187cm

    Are there any good alu frames like '90s Klein, is there a 2016 Klein something in that realm?
     

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    Default Re: No nonsense 1x11 HT 29ers

    If looking for a hardtail, I'd buy used and pick up a nice set of wide carbon wheels with the money you'll save. Mountain bikes don't seem to hold their value but when you're looking at a hardtail, you're not going to see gigantic improvements from 2014 to 2016. As long as the fork isn't trashed, the rest of the stuff is "cheap" to replace - XT brakes are $140 now a days.
     

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    Thrilled with my aluminum Niner, it keeps offering me just a little more. I opted for the rigid fork for reliability and simplicity.

    Pooch is correct, the XT stuff is absolutely aces. Mine's a 2x, but I'd go with a 26-38 instead of a 28-40 if I did it again.

    That said, my next bike will be 27.5 (650b) plus (3" tires).

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    Default Re: No nonsense 1x11 HT 29ers

    I rode a HT 29er for a long time and it was a fun machine. But like Lionel said, check out an FS bike if during your shopping.

    Either way welcome back to the dirt!

    -Joe

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    Default Re: No nonsense 1x11 HT 29ers

    You really should consider SRAM.

    They have the best 1x11 transmission, shimano range is so low you'd rather ride a singlespeed, and one of the best brakes with the newer level/guide brakes. Reliability issue seems to be thing of the past with them. Shimano should only be considered with 2 rings, especially with a di2 tranny which allow for a sequential shifting and the brakes, although powerful are lacking a lot in term of modulation. Some brands such as canyon mix sram transmission with shimano brakes. I'd rather go with magura or hope instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sk_tle View Post
    You really should consider SRAM.

    They have the best 1x11 transmission, shimano range is so low you'd rather ride a singlespeed, and one of the best brakes with the newer level/guide brakes. Reliability issue seems to be thing of the past with them. Shimano should only be considered with 2 rings, especially with a di2 tranny which allow for a sequential shifting and the brakes, although powerful are lacking a lot in term of modulation. Some brands such as canyon mix sram transmission with shimano brakes. I'd rather go with magura or hope instead.
    Shimano has introduced an 11-46 cassette option.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles View Post
    Shimano has introduced an 11-46 cassette option.
    True I forgot about that but it weights as much as a shimano alfine hub.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sk_tle View Post
    True I forgot about that but it weights as much as a shimano alfine hub.
    Fair point. I will say I've been very happy with my SRAM XX1, I just wanted to point out the Shimano ratio, although it's pretty portly.
     

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    Default Re: No nonsense 1x11 HT 29ers

    An unbeatable deal brought me to XX1 a couple of years ago. Long time Shimano user, I was skeptical at first, but after a couple of seasons my XX1 drivetrain has been great. Quiet, excellent shifting, I've never dropped the chain. The brakes, however, are shit. Dumped them after the first ride for XTR and never looked back.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by bcplouffe View Post
    An unbeatable deal brought me to XX1 a couple of years ago. Long time Shimano user, I was skeptical at first, but after a couple of seasons my XX1 drivetrain has been great. Quiet, excellent shifting, I've never dropped the chain. The brakes, however, are shit. Dumped them after the first ride for XTR and never looked back.
    Sram XX brakes have been discountinued. Sram introduced last year the Sram Guide (4 pistons) and a few weeks ago the Level (2 pistons) brakes. All report on guide brakes say they are reliable and do not need bleeding as frequently as their old brakes. Sram Level were just introduced recently but use the same construction so it should be the same.

    I tested the Sram guide brakes myself and they were fantastic, much better than XTR. I think Sram finally did their homework and shouldn't be judged from past experiences.

    XT/XTR brakes are not perfect contrary to what people often say. They are a bit too on/off.
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    Default Re: No nonsense 1x11 HT 29ers

    Alu Niner. Build it up with XT /SLX.
    29 wheels still rule IMO. Even over 27.5 with + tires according people I know who ride the steep technical stuff.
    29 is: point it where you want to go , relax the grip on the bars and let it roll.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by holliscx View Post
    Are there any good alu frames like '90s Klein, is there a 2016 Klein something in that realm?
    Kona Honzo....I keep looking at those and thinking, damn, that's a well built bike....less on the XC, more on the FUN.

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    Enough with the thread drift, did you have a look at the Focus and Ghost range. These 2 german brands tend to have great bike for the money.
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    A little long in the tooth (but so am I): I really like my Niner Air 9 HT. I have it built currently with a full 2x10 XT group and it performs very nicely-front shifting is the best I have used on any bike. The bike puts a smile on my face when I ride it.
     

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    Default Re: No nonsense 1x11 HT 29ers

    I have to agree with Lionel and others on the FS comments. I currently have a carbon hardtail and while it's nice, now that I have the Lobster I'd rather go for steel fat tire CX. It will go pretty much anywhere the hardtail is and be more fun doing it. For my next bike, I'm looking long and hard at a Santa Cruz Hightower, 29er or 27.5+ all in the same FS bike.
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    I am a relative noob to MTB (dabbled 20+ years ago, all road and cross since) and am just getting back into it. Partial to metal bikes, but my MTB skills and goals didn't justify a 44 or Coconino or a Moots as ridden by most of my teammates. Went with the Niner Sir 9 with the XT 1x11 build. Amazed so far. 853 steel with welds that rival some of my road bikes from the masters.Excellent value in line with the parameters set by the OP. YMMV.
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    Lou, I'm gonna have some free time in the next few weeks. Lets have a MTB date?
     

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