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    Default New Mavic Rims(?)

    Somehow I missed this, until I saw that Excel Sports is selling to handbuilt wheelsets using Mavic's Open Pro Carbon UST rims. They come in both rim and disc compatible versions. Slightly different shapes/depth.

    Open Pro Carbon UST - Endurance - Rims - Road and Triathlon | Mavic

    Open Pro Carbon UST - Endurance - Rims - Road and Triathlon | Mavic

    Similarly carbonized old classic, they've introduced a CXP Pro Carbon UST, also in rim and disc.

    CXP Pro Carbon UST - Fast and light - Rims - Road and Triathlon | Mavic

    CXP Pro Carbon UST Disc - Fast and light - Rims - Road and Triathlon | Mavic

    Excel Sports is selling their handbuilts for $1700/pr, which seems semi-reasonable (though some factory carbon wheelsets like Campy Boras can be had for that price or less.) They are selling the rims for $450 each. List on Mavic's site is $600.
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    Am I reading this correctly, the Open Pro carbon rim is a mere 5 grams less than the alloy iteration? ........and at $600 Vs. $100?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by WFSTEKL View Post
    Am I reading this correctly, the Open Pro carbon rim is a mere 5 grams less than the alloy iteration? ........and at $600 Vs. $100?
    It is odd. But - some would argue that alloy Open Pros are a little too light for their own good.

    Edited to add that ENVE rims at 56mm come in at 399g (!).
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by WFSTEKL View Post
    Am I reading this correctly, the Open Pro carbon rim is a mere 5 grams less than the alloy iteration? ........and at $600 Vs. $100?
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    Still not on the wide rim bandwagon I see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dgaddis View Post
    Still not on the wide rim bandwagon I see.
    They would be 500 grams if 23+!
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by WFSTEKL View Post
    Am I reading this correctly, the Open Pro carbon rim is a mere 5 grams less than the alloy iteration? ........and at $600 Vs. $100?
    If they made them lighter, you'd be getting even less for your money.

    Have they ever succeeded in bringing the new OP Ceramic rim to market in a major way? Last I checked, the coating was flaking and they pulled them.
     

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    I competed on a Mavic group in the mid-90's. Absolutely loved the stuff. The bearings were fabulous, and everything was easy to clean and service. I still have a bunch of the Mavic bearing tools. The brakesets were rubbish. First Modolo, then DiaCompe, but what would you expect? I also enjoyed rolling on GL330s and GP4s. Who didn't? Zap was the first thing to hip-check me out of bed, then the series of god-awful rims that followed confirmed the divorce. Lately, Campy has been trying hard to sever the mortal coil, but now where does one go?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgaddis View Post
    Still not on the wide rim bandwagon I see.
    19mm internal/28 external isn't wide enough for you?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by prototoast View Post
    19mm internal/28 external isn't wide enough for you?
    I missed that. 19 is cool.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by WFSTEKL View Post
    I competed on a Mavic group in the mid-90's. Absolutely loved the stuff. The bearings were fabulous, and everything was easy to clean and service. I still have a bunch of the Mavic bearing tools. The brakesets were rubbish. First Modolo, then DiaCompe, but what would you expect? I also enjoyed rolling on GL330s and GP4s. Who didn't? Zap was the first thing to hip-check me out of bed, then the series of god-awful rims that followed confirmed the divorce. Lately, Campy has been trying hard to sever the mortal coil, but now where does one go?
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    They are lighter than Boyd rims. And less expensive at Excel.

    Are Boyd rims too heavy then?
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    Seems interesting at first, but an extra grand a pair? For worse braking and no aero advantage? To save 20g? I'd stick with the alloy.

    Plus, my affair with Ms. Campagnolo is ongoing. And my Peg already looks down its nose at those French pedals. I'll keep saving for the Boras.
     

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    These bear absolutely no resemblance to open pros. They’re fat generic carbon rims. And heavy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j44ke View Post
    They are lighter than Boyd rims. And less expensive at Excel.

    Are Boyd rims too heavy then?
    The discussion is about value. They are a poor value. There is an option available at a fraction of the price that has better wet braking function, and is essentially the same weight. Otherwise, they are wonderful.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by WFSTEKL View Post
    The discussion is about value. They are a poor value. There is an option available at a fraction of the price that has better wet braking function, and is essentially the same weight. Otherwise, they are wonderful.
    Sorry, which rims are those?

    So the Boyd rims are poor value also then? They seem to get a lot of positive reviews here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j44ke View Post
    Sorry, which rims are those?
    I think he's saying he doesn't understand why anyone would by Mavic's carbon rims, when they can buy Mavic's aluminum rims for less. This argument doesn't appear to be specific to Mavic's offerings.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by j44ke View Post
    Sorry, which rims are those?

    So the Boyd rims are poor value also then? They seem to get a lot of positive reviews here.
    No mention of poor quality or function., just poor value.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by WFSTEKL View Post
    I also enjoyed rolling on GL330s and GP4s.
    GL330 = what you built your most amazing wheelset with.

    GP4 = what you replaced the GL330 with, after a period between 3 days and 3 months when the GL330 would no longer fit between the brake pads, and then rode for the rest of your life. Or until you stopped buying tubulars.

    GEL 280 = what your 118-lb friend rode, you know, the guy with a poster of Lucien van Impe on his wall. Always had a cold, low gear was a 42-18, descended at 18 mph in a full tuck. And even he trashed those rims.
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    Default Re: New Mavic Rims(?)

    Ah I see.

    $450 for a carbon rim doesn’t seem like a horrible price to me. Granted that’s a mark-down from suggested retail, but that’s still the price.

    Of course, if these don’t brake well, then forget it. Does anyone have any actual experience with the rims?
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