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    Default New Campagnolo EKAR groupset unveiled today

    I know bugger all about gravel riding but this looks good.

    Better sealed Bb and the option of a Quicklink chain are highlights for me, oh and the adapted thumb shifter would be a good thing on the road grouppos too.

    What say ye groaders?

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    Default Re: New Campagnolo EKAR groupset unveiled today

    The Gram is lit up with builds from Sarto, Bixxis, Stelbel, etc, etc. And, yep, it looks good in the way only Campag can. Who knew gravel can look sexy?
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    Default Re: New Campagnolo EKAR groupset unveiled today

    I know that this is not logical to anyone but me; however, I would also prefer a rim brake option. Yup.

    The thumb trigger redesign looks cool, and who doesn't like a better sealed bottom bracket?

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    Default Re: New Campagnolo EKAR groupset unveiled today

    There won’t be a rim brake option. That’s where Chorus comes in I think.

    I really like this group and wish I had a bike for it. (Maybe another Zanconato order.... ;-)....) 1x11 or 12 is pretty limiting but adding that 13th gear goes a long way to covering the range and spacing of a 2x system, accounting for duplicate gears on a 2x bike.

    After a summer and some riding on my 2x Di2 GRX group there are times I think a 1x would be better. Lots of the short, sharp climbs on the roads of western MI have me shifting a lot between the two rings and there’s a split second of wasted energy in doing so. I can definitely see the appeal of a 1x system and 13 gears begins to make it viable.

    I’d buy this.
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    Default Re: New Campagnolo EKAR groupset unveiled today

    I get why they did it, but that thumb shifter is horrid.

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    Default Re: New Campagnolo EKAR groupset unveiled today

    Quote Originally Posted by corko View Post
    What say ye groaders?
    They're a decade late, and now jumping into a crowded market that's peaked.

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    Default Re: New Campagnolo EKAR groupset unveiled today

    Quote Originally Posted by theflashunc View Post
    I get why they did it, but that thumb shifter is horrid.
    I’m hoping they incorporate it into their road shifters....... I have small hands and whilst I can shift in the drops, this new configuration would be better I think....I don’t really look at shifters much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caleb View Post
    They're a decade late, and now jumping into a crowded market that's peaked.
    That’s a good point, but I think it’s Differentiated by the the weight. ..... time will tell wether it’s a success but they are getting to try a few things out that could be leveraged onto the road groups. Eg. Better sealed BB. Quicklink chains. And I like the idea of moving the rear mech out of the way when changing wheels
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    Default Re: New Campagnolo EKAR groupset unveiled today

    Quote Originally Posted by caleb View Post
    They're a decade late, and now jumping into a crowded market that's peaked.
    I don't quite agree with this conclusion. Didn't Shimano introduce their first gravel group just last year? I do agree that everything has a finite shelf life. It seems the gravel scene is still emerging, and is aided by the increase of distracted motorists. The isolation of dirt roads and paths will continue to be attractive for many cyclists.

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    Default Re: New Campagnolo EKAR groupset unveiled today

    rw saunders
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    Default Re: New Campagnolo EKAR groupset unveiled today

    Quote Originally Posted by WFSTEKL View Post
    I don't quite agree with this conclusion. Didn't Shimano introduce their first gravel group just last year? I do agree that everything has a finite shelf life. It seems the gravel scene is still emerging, and is aided by the increase of distracted motorists. The isolation of dirt roads and paths will continue to be attractive for many cyclists.
    I agree with this. I don’t think gravel riding is going away. Road riding, at least in the US, is increasingly unappealing due to aggressive, hostile driving and distracted driving.
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    Default Re: New Campagnolo EKAR groupset unveiled today

    Since the failure of convincing industry product managers to install Potenza as OE on road bikes, is this the Campy group that finally hits the commercial bell? Besides the boutique builders noted, it seems that a few of the big boys have spec'd Ekar:

    https://bikerumor.com/2020/09/24/whe...cialized-more/

    Regardless, as a Campy fan I could see myself swapping out my cobbled together 1x Ultegra-11 speed drive train for Ekar on my Rock Lobster gravel/monster cross bike.... even with the added ouch of having to buy a new wheel/wheelset to allow use of the new 13s cassette.
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    Default Re: New Campagnolo EKAR groupset unveiled today

    I dig that tweak to the thumb doohickey.

    Not digging the 13 cogs in back, some of which have only 9 or 10 teeth, and only one ring up front. I mean I get it, but holy heck is that not my bag. Neither are the derailleur pulleys with all the grooves and holes to hold the grit and make it hard to clean.

    I dig the G3 spoke pattern when thereís an odd number (rear) but no so much when itís even (front). Iím sure those are high-zoot, quality hoops.

    The design is certainly slick, even the packaging. Those brake rotors are the best Iíve ever had, so I dig those. The new calipers are flat-out sexy. But then again, Iím sticking with cable-actuated calipers. So I can keep my 10-speed levers. With a double or triple up front.

    Iím guessing that any bike on the floor wearing that gruppo is going to get some attention.
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    Default Re: New Campagnolo EKAR groupset unveiled today

    Looks good to me. If I was building a gravel bike I would probably go this direction-I love the shape of the hoods.

    I am curious about how the additional outboard seal improves BB bearing life.

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    Default Re: New Campagnolo EKAR groupset unveiled today

    Quote Originally Posted by Saab2000 View Post
    [snip]After a summer and some riding on my 2x Di2 GRX group there are times I think a 1x would be better. [snip]
    I’d buy this.
    2x shifting is called Geriatric Road X, 46/30 is nice for the old folk on road bikes.
    1X shifting is called Gravel Road X

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    Default Re: New Campagnolo EKAR groupset unveiled today

    Quote Originally Posted by rwsaunders View Post
    Overall, very positive. Much more than their previous review of Potenza. And they are right about Campag's disc brake system. It is the best road disc system out there.

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    Default Re: New Campagnolo EKAR groupset unveiled today

    James Huangís take via CyclingTips:

    https://cyclingtips.com/2020/09/new-...eed-to-gravel/

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    Default Re: New Campagnolo EKAR groupset unveiled today

    I read both reviews with a great deal of interest. The detailed picture of the multiple cogs machined out of a single piece of steel I found fascinating.

    I was sufficiently inspired to buy a myself another spare set of 10 speed Record Ergo shifters while they are still around.

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    Default Re: New Campagnolo EKAR groupset unveiled today

    It looks pretty good. Question not answered by a quick scan of the Huang article--Can the new freehub body be installed on existing campy wheels?

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    Default Re: New Campagnolo EKAR groupset unveiled today

    Quote Originally Posted by twowheels View Post
    It looks pretty good. Question not answered by a quick scan of the Huang article--Can the new freehub body be installed on existing campy wheels?
    I’d guess not. The new version is slightly shorter I thing and has a spacer of some sort. Looks a bit odd but Campagnolo seem do have done their homework because a bunch of manufacturers are on board, including DT-Swiss and this is important because DT-Swiss make hubs and hub internals for many brands, including Bontrager (Trek) and Roval (Specialized). As much as we don’t need yet another standard in the cycling world, it appears they haven’t created an immediately outdated and orphaned product.

    The next step will be to see if anyone actually buys Ekar.
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