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    Question Mesh Baselayers in Winter?

    What has been everyone's experience with using mesh baselayers in winter?

    I have been considering this product:

    Hi-Tech Mesh Wool Base Layer | Unisex Wool Thermo Long Sleeve Shirt w/ Inlay

    .....since it was given rave reviews by a cycling acquaintance of mine for helping prevent cold clamminess that one can experience at times during winter cycling by helping to transfer moisture to a middle or outer layer, away from your skin. That's the theory, at least.

    I find that when riding on typical routes here, with the constant barrage of hills, I get a sweaty baselayer at some point in the ride no matter how light I dare to dress, then suffer with the cold clammy thing as a result. Faithfully re-positioning the chest zip of my outer layer at the top and bottom of each hill helps, but it still doesn't prevent the problem from happening.

    I should point out that I most often wear 100% wool baselayers of varying weights. Top layer varies with the weather, of course - could be a heavy wool jersey, a softshell jacket, a LS or SS Gabba (which paradoxically I enjoy wearing the most in dry weather), wind jacket, or a rain shell. I'll often add a middle layer when it's below 35 deg F. or so, and it's usually wool.

    I should also note that I have used synthetic baselayers too, and they aren't any better. They actually seem slightly worse in terms of getting cold after sweat has whetted it.

    Thoughts?

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    Default Re: Mesh Baselayers in Winter?

    I used a mesh full sleeve baselayer (outwet) with a light merlino wool baselayer (ibex) overtop on a ride this week at 40 degrees. I have the same frustration as you as my rides are always up and down. It worked pretty well; better than a lot of heavier single baselayers that just seem unable to wick enough sweat away from the skin after the first hour of riding. I'm still searching for the right combo (s) though, and it seems to differ with about every 5 degree change in temperature.
     

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    Default Re: Mesh Baselayers in Winter?

    I sometimes wear a summer sleeveless mesh base layer under a normal winter base layer for this reason. In my experience it does seem to help stave off dampness and the inevitable coldness for longer into the ride.
     

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    Default Re: Mesh Baselayers in Winter?

    Q365 makes a mesh that is excellent for the winter. Try it

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    Default Re: Mesh Baselayers in Winter?

    Quote Originally Posted by joosttx View Post
    Q365 makes a mesh that is excellent for the winter. Try it
    What he said. That is really nice stuff and holds up well.

    I use mesh base all year even in the cold.

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    Default Re: Mesh Baselayers in Winter?

    Thanks for the feedback fellas.

    Thanks also for the lead on the Q36.5 baselayers. I hadn't looked at those before but they are impressive. This particular model should fit the bill: Base Layer 3 Long Sleeve - Baselayers - Q36.5

    Do the Q36.5 baselayers hold onto stink like most synthetics? (Expecting a 'yes' answer but one can always hope.) That was the main attraction for me to the wool version of the Brynje product (but I worry about long term durability of a very open mesh using that much wool).

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    Default Re: Mesh Baselayers in Winter?

    Quote Originally Posted by steamer View Post
    Thanks for the feedback fellas.

    Thanks also for the lead on the Q36.5 baselayers. I hadn't looked at those before but they are impressive. This particular model should fit the bill: Base Layer 3 Long Sleeve - Baselayers - Q36.5

    Do the Q36.5 baselayers hold onto stink like most synthetics? (Expecting a 'yes' answer but one can always hope.) That was the main attraction for me to the wool version of the Brynje product (but I worry about long term durability of a very open mesh using that much wool).
    No, they do not hold stink at all. I wear the sleeveless job to yoga 3/4 times per week. They go in the wash each time and come out perfect.
    Campagnolo base is my second all time favorite.

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    Default Re: Mesh Baselayers in Winter?

    I have a Rapha base layer that is a wool mesh- It is super warm.
     

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    Default Re: Mesh Baselayers in Winter?

    After +40 years of cycling year round in the Great North East, I discovered silk in the last five years. A light silk base layer seems to work best--doesn't build a static charge, or get clammy and maintains slickness so other layers glide over it without binding. Need washing in cold and hang dry, however. Seems to wear like iron. Provides more wind resistance than wool or synthetics. Most of it comes from China or Taiwan, so keep an eye on those tariffs.
     

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    Default Re: Mesh Baselayers in Winter?

    Quote Originally Posted by steamer View Post
    Thanks for the feedback fellas.

    Thanks also for the lead on the Q36.5 baselayers. I hadn't looked at those before but they are impressive. This particular model should fit the bill: Base Layer 3 Long Sleeve - Baselayers - Q36.5

    Do the Q36.5 baselayers hold onto stink like most synthetics? (Expecting a 'yes' answer but one can always hope.) That was the main attraction for me to the wool version of the Brynje product (but I worry about long term durability of a very open mesh using that much wool).
    No they dont stink. I do but they dont. Never even thought about this until reading your post.

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    Default Re: Mesh Baselayers in Winter?

    I wore my mesh merino zip turtle neck today. Love the warmth and breathability. It's a Brynje of Norway.
    Buy a size up and be gentle washing.
    It's a killer product.
     

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    I found the Rapha Merino mesh base on sale for black Friday. Bought the LS version. Very small mesh.

    The Castelli Seamless Sleeveless I bought a few years ago get worn a bunch. Warmest thing you'll wear all winter. Promise

    The Brynje synthetic mesh base layer got a great review on ?bikeradar/bikerumor? a bit ago. Less $$ than the merino mesh...

    IME the key is a bigger mesh that traps more air pockets. Just like a double pane window, that air warms up and keeps you warmer. ...as long as you keep the wind away.

    I'm was wearing a Craft 3A base layer working in my unheated garage. That and a synthetic down vest under a regular sweatshirt and while I wasn't warm, I wasn't cold either.

    HTH

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    there was a --------> RAPHA one, great one! MERINO! fantastic!

    what a drama!
     

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    I promise a drama free question. The Q36.5 sleeveless base layer has been good to me. If their freakin' website would work I might even order a few more in anthacite. However, it ain't and I am in the hunt to replace my tired sleeveless baselayers.

    The Q36.5 sleeveless is very long, which is vaguely important if I am to achieve eight fold path to enlightenment tell me if anyone makes a sleeveless baselayer with as long a tail.

    My eternal salvation rests upon your words.

    See? Drama free or free drama...so confusing.
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    Uniqlo. I think it's called AirSim or something like that. It's basically akin to the old Rapha mesh base layer of years ago...maybe a little less meshy. I heard about it on some budget bikepacking Youtube channel as a less expensive version of pro kit. It works. Best part is a shirt is like $10 so if you're not happy you're not out that much cash.

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    Default Re: Mesh Baselayers in Winter?

    Gotcha Bob. Those are all with sleeves, now how will I rage dressed with sleeves? Hmmm

    I might give Duluth Trading Company a shot. They add 3" to their tank tops.

    These are to be used mostly for Yoga.

    Quite frankly my dear, paying upwards $60 for a sleeveless Tee (Q36.5, Assos etc.) seems silly. Not that there is anything wrong with it.
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    Default Re: Mesh Baselayers in Winter?

    "A light silk base layer seems to work best"
    ...if you don't sweat heavily. If you do, it can't wick fast enough and gets soaked.

    "The Brynje synthetic mesh base layer got a great review"
    Yes. I don't ride in the winter these days, but Brynjes worked well for me when I did, and are still great for skiing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prcrstn8 View Post
    "A light silk base layer seems to work best"
    ...if you don't sweat heavily. If you do, it can't wick fast enough and gets soaked.

    "The Brynje synthetic mesh base layer got a great review"
    Yes. I don't ride in the winter these days, but Brynjes worked well for me when I did, and are still great for skiing.
    Gotcha, neat materials. The body length is a bit in the normal range. Sadly, I'm anything but normal.

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    Default Re: Mesh Baselayers in Winter?

    I use Patagonia. Their base layers come in four weights I think. Here in Seattle winter rides are in the 40-50 degree range so I mostly use the lightest weight and the #2 weight in a zip t-neck. They're durable, don't stink, easily washable (need to air dry, but I do that with all my cycling wear).
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by 9tubes View Post
    I use Patagonia. Their base layers come in four weights I think. Here in Seattle winter rides are in the 40-50 degree range so I mostly use the lightest weight and the #2 weight in a zip t-neck. They're durable, don't stink, easily washable (need to air dry, but I do that with all my cycling wear).
    The mesh layer lets vapor move out, keeps a pocket of warm air next to the skin and basically makes everything better. Promise

    Try one. You'll be impressed

    M
     

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