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    THE TIME OF TUBULARS IS COMING TO AN END

    As long as Veloflex don't waver, I won't be very sad.
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    CyclngTips again offers well considered opinions backed by solid research and all y'all clincher devotees can bite my shiny metal arse. xxoo

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    Well-written article and backed by both market and performance data. Tubulars will still be around, but be even more of a fringe item than they've been for the last. Outside of the pro peloton, probably half of the tubular users left are here on VSalon ;} I still use them on one of my road bikes, even though I recognize it's approaching an affectation at this point. Also, as pointed out in the article, they still make sense for CX on many levels.
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    Default Re: Likely inevitable but sad nonetheless

    Just like lugged, steel frames and forks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Polack View Post
    Just like lugged, steel frames and forks...
    #betterridingthantheotherstuff

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    Somebody forgot to tell Pirelli, now with a thermoplastic tube (aerothan like)
    instead of latex. Tubbies that don't need to pumped up everyday.
    Progress.

    https://www.bikeradar.com/news/pirel...tubular-tyres/

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    Thank God I didn’t read that article last night, before I finished gluing a Pave to an ancient Nucleon wheel and cracking a brew to celebrate the Spring weather.
    rw saunders
    hey, how lucky can one man get.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott G. View Post
    Somebody forgot to tell Pirelli, now with a thermoplastic tube (aerothan like)
    instead of latex. Tubbies that don't need to pumped up everyday.
    Progress.

    https://www.bikeradar.com/news/pirel...tubular-tyres/
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    R.W. for Supreme Leader

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    Quote Originally Posted by rwsaunders View Post


    Thank God I didn’t read that article last night, before I finished gluing a Pave to an ancient Nucleon wheel and cracking a brew to celebrate the Spring weather.
    If my kid got into your garage, those screwdrivers would be organized by size and perhaps color.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott G. View Post
    Tubbies that don't need to pumped up everyday.

    https://www.bikeradar.com/news/pirel...tubular-tyres/
    I never understood the bias against having to maybe pump a couple shots of air into your tires on a regular (generally daily) basis. It has always seemed like an excuse to cast shade on high quality tubular tires. If it's terribly important, tubular tires butyl tubes have been around forever. They hold pressure like your garden variety butyl tubes in clinchers.

    I've never ridden tubeless tires. Do they hold air almost indefinitely or do they require a bit of attention before heading out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smontanaro View Post
    I never understood the bias against having to maybe pump a couple shots of air into your tires on a regular (generally daily) basis. It has always seemed like an excuse to cast shade on high quality tubular tires. If it's terribly important, tubular tires butyl tubes have been around forever. They hold pressure like your garden variety butyl tubes in clinchers.

    I've never ridden tubeless tires. Do they hold air almost indefinitely or do they require a bit of attention before heading out?
    My tubeless require checking and often a shot of air.

    The latex tubes in my old Veloflex tubulars were absolutely part of the magic ride and worth the effort to keep properly inflated. It wasn’t a hassle.

    Butyl tubes in tubular tires defeat the purpose of using them.
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    I have a new tub wheelset I've never ridden in a box in my basement.

    I think I need to commission a new custom frame to build up a bike around this set...

    Maybe next year.

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    A little off topic. During a training camp Ed Pavelka was giving me crap about letting some of the air out of my tires at days end. That's all, just a little something to mess with people's head. Sorry Ed, just funnin'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rwsaunders View Post


    Thank God I didn’t read that article last night, before I finished gluing a Pave to an ancient Nucleon wheel and cracking a brew to celebrate the Spring weather.
    Not only did I glued 2 tubulars yesterday, but I also relaced 3 tubular rims so they can live a second life on bikes equipped with thru-axles!

    That's the thing, I invested in nice carbon tubular rims a few years ago and with the advent of disc brakes the rims have become items that do not wear anymore and are likely to survive us. I have no idea which type I'd choose if I was in the market for new wheels. What I know is that I am past my racing days, I won't be selected to the olympics, I can deal with riding tires that waste 5 or 10 watts more than the best clincher or tubeless as I have no way to feel that "loss". What I can't deal with however is the idea to have sendt properly working rims in the landfill because someone at cyclingtips said tubulars are obsoletes. I just hope we will still have enough decent tubulars models in the market for a while.

    I think what put the nail in the coffin was disc brakes. With disc brakes even the sportiest road bikes have been made to support 28 to 30mm tires. What made tubulars so good were how they ride, but while the ride difference was real on 22 and 23mm tires, that difference is annihiled once you get past a certain volume which allow for a lower pressure.
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    This same old prediction has been around for decades now....and these articles are just as tired as the annual” ride your first century” garbage that appear with the same nauseating frequency as the season’s first drug scandal...
    "Humilis humilibus...Inflectans arroganibus....."

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    There is so much eccentricity right now in the cycling community i don´t see why tubular 700x 22 tires can´t live on as the ultra sublime hipster must have.
    If touring came back, lugs are alive and half ton Brooks saddles are the cat´s meow then fast road bikes on tubular wheels are the next thing.
    slow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rwsaunders View Post


    Thank God I didn’t read that article last night, before I finished gluing a Pave to an ancient Nucleon wheel and cracking a brew to celebrate the Spring weather.
    That picture renewed my faith in humanity.
    slow.

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    my favorite road wheels are still tubulars. i hope vittoria and veloflex continue making good tires. veloflex for the go fast bike and vittoria corsa controls for the "pave" bike. i know a lot of people are raving about the new WTO wheels, but my bora tubulars are the pinnacle of road wheels in my experience.


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    I will be surprised if tubeless will take over in cyclocross.
    A niche , but still.

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