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    Default Let-s hear it for cat-2 climbs

    I just came back from Hincapie and it got me thinking there are some tough category 2 climbs out there. The two hardest I can recall doing at the moment are Devil's Kitchen and Skyuka Mountain.

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    Default Re: Let-s hear it for cat-2 climbs

    What is a cat-2 climb ? Is there an ISO standard about climbs ?
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    Default Re: Let-s hear it for cat-2 climbs

    I spend a lot of sunrises on this one -

    10.8km @ ~5% Col d'Espigoulier par Gémenos (I'm still somewhere around 485/5995 on the leaderboard, while the KOM is FDJ rider Alexandre Geniez, born the same year as me). Found a gravel road up the same climb this weekend and I much prefer that...

    Then there's my favorite spot for morning hill repeats

    4.25km @ ~8% Route des Crêtes which includes this fun little section of slightly under 1km @ 23%. Pretty sure Maxime Bouet has the KOM on that one..
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    Default Re: Let-s hear it for cat-2 climbs

    Quote Originally Posted by sk_tle View Post
    What is a cat-2 climb ? Is there an ISO standard about climbs ?
    I thk its one of those undefined but everybody knows what it is categories.
    I just returned from France and did a number of what I would also call Cat 2 climbs... unofficially.
    Hard enough, long enough but not ultra hard.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveP View Post
    Hard enough, long enough but not ultra hard.
    Right now with my current crappy fitness but thanksfully sub compact 46-30 crankset every single climb is a cat 2 to me !
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    Default Re: Let-s hear it for cat-2 climbs

    Quote Originally Posted by SteveP View Post
    I thk its one of those undefined but everybody knows what it is categories.
    I just returned from France and did a number of what I would also call Cat 2 climbs... unofficially.
    Hard enough, long enough but not ultra hard.
    I just go by how STRAVA ranks. I think most graders are similar although I think one service has a cat-5 ranking which is a joke.
     

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    Default Re: Let-s hear it for cat-2 climbs

    [QUOTE=sk_tle;929909]Right now with my current crappy fitness but thanksfully sub compact 46-30 crankset every single climb is a cat 2 to me ![/QUOTE

    at the hincapie gran fondo there's a cat-3 climb called howard's gap. only 1 1/3 miles long but steep and after skyuka mountain(cat-2). riders were zig-zagging just to make it up and a number of them coudn't maintain enough speed and literally fell off their bikes. A lot of cyclists walked all or parts of it -Mike G
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fastupslowdown View Post
    I just go by how STRAVA ranks. I think most graders are similar although I think one service has a cat-5 ranking which is a joke.
    Another way to call a false-flat I guess.
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    Default Re: Let-s hear it for cat-2 climbs

    from a strava help page:

    The Strava climb categorization is similar to how the UCI categorizes climbs but with some modifications.
    When a climb is categorized, for the Tour de France for example, there is a subjective component to the categorization. If a climb is at the end of the stage it could get a tougher category than if it was earlier in the stage. Strava's method is objective, so if a climb is category 1 climb it will always be a category 1. You will see that a segment is categorized by the number on both the segment page and at the list of segments on your activity page.

    To decide the category of a climb Strava multiplies the length of the climb (in meters) with the grade of the climb. If that number is greater than 8000 then it is a categorized climb.
    Cat 4 > 8000
    Cat 3 > 16000
    Cat 2 > 32000
    Cat 1 > 48000
    HC (Hors Categorie) > 64000

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    There was a website some time back (kom.com?) that categorized climbs, and many of my local climbs were on the list. There's one that I frequented, called the "zoo climb" (still called that on Strava) that was a hors categorie on that old site. Strava calls is a Cat 3.
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    Default Re: Let-s hear it for cat-2 climbs

    [QUOTE=fastupslowdown;929913]
    Quote Originally Posted by sk_tle View Post
    Right now with my current crappy fitness but thanksfully sub compact 46-30 crankset every single climb is a cat 2 to me ![/QUOTE

    at the hincapie gran fondo there's a cat-3 climb called howard's gap. only 1 1/3 miles long but steep and after skyuka mountain(cat-2). riders were zig-zagging just to make it up and a number of them coudn't maintain enough speed and literally fell off their bikes. A lot of cyclists walked all or parts of it -Mike G
    Glad you enjoyed the Fondo, Mike! I trust you bit the bullet and put a 11-32 cassette on your bike? That last half mile was brutal, wasn't it?
     

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    Default Re: Let-s hear it for cat-2 climbs

    [QUOTE=houston;929924]
    Quote Originally Posted by fastupslowdown View Post

    Glad you enjoyed the Fondo, Mike! I trust you bit the bullet and put a 11-32 cassette on your bike? That last half mile was brutal, wasn't it?
    hell yea. skyuka wasn't too bad, but i had trouble the last 5/100 of a mile up Howard's Gap. I think it was more mental however. I thought the climb was 1.26 and when I clocked that much on my garmin and didn't see the end of the timed segment I lost it. I saw a number of cyclists literally fall off their bikes doing howard's gap.
     

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    Default Re: Let-s hear it for cat-2 climbs

    I was a hair's breadth from an asthma attack on Lincoln Gap in VT this summer. I did some uh hard living the day before tho. I'm sure that's a Cat something.
     

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    Default Re: Let-s hear it for cat-2 climbs

    Quote Originally Posted by fastupslowdown View Post
    from a strava help page:

    The Strava climb categorization is similar to how the UCI categorizes climbs
    Quote Originally Posted by fastupslowdown View Post
    To decide the category of a climb Strava multiplies the length of the climb (in meters) with the grade of the climb. If that number is greater than 8000 then it is a categorized climb.
    And here I was under the impression that categories are determined by the gear a 2CV would use to drive that climb (HC: driver has to push the car up the road).
     

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    Default Re: Let-s hear it for cat-2 climbs

    Quote Originally Posted by fastupslowdown View Post

    ... 5/100 of a mile ....
    Makes my head hurt.
     

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    Default Re: Let-s hear it for cat-2 climbs

    Here's a good read on the subject from a few years back.

    How Are Climbs Categorised?
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    Default Re: Let-s hear it for cat-2 climbs

    Quote Originally Posted by David Tollefson View Post
    There was a website some time back (kom.com?) that categorized climbs, and many of my local climbs were on the list. There's one that I frequented, called the "zoo climb" (still called that on Strava) that was a hors categorie on that old site. Strava calls is a Cat 3.
    This is what you are after - Climbbybike.com - most difficult climbs in the world
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by zambenini View Post
    I was a hair's breadth from an asthma attack on Lincoln Gap in VT this summer. I did some uh hard living the day before tho.

    They don't call it "Bad Liver Glen" for nothing! :)
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Ross View Post
    They don't call it "Bad Liver Glen" for nothing! :)
    LOL. I had to think about that for a second.
     

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