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    Default Re: if you live in a high rise tell me about your bike room

    I lived in a high-rise many years ago. A very nice place.
    My bicycles still came on elevator with me without issue.
    No way were my bikes getting abused with the beaters.
     

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    I am in the process of buying a condo on a low-rise building (4-story) but it's a bit the same concept. This bike question has nagged at me forever with regards to condominiums.

    The one I am buying is being acquired by me in huge part because the previous owner had the foresight to buy a storage room (and an extra parking spot!) in the underground garage when they bought the unit. How a building like this is built without one storage room per unit is beyond me, but many are built this way. For the record, my mother's place in a high rise in Minneapolis has storage rooms for each unit in the interior of the building, where living space is not going to happen anyway. It was designed this way and the room is probably about 8'x10' and is really great for storing things one doesn't want to keep in the unit.

    The room I'm buying is probably 4'x8' but will allow me to keep the bikes secure and out of sight.

    I'm single and buying a 2-bedroom place, so the second bedroom could and probably will act as some bike storage. I'm still downsizing and this became more clear over the past few days. Some more stuff will need to go in all likelihood. The huge walk-in closet will be nice too.

    Storage is less of a concern to me than cleaning and maintaining the bikes, which can be a bit of a messy process. I am sure I will find a way but I don't wish for my condo to look like a messy bike shop.
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    Our building was advertised as having a bike room but when we did the tour we saw that it was just a dusty room with kids bikes in it that must have belonged to people lived in the building as kids and who now have grandchildren of their own.

    I got together with two other cyclists in the building and prevailed on the management to let us ask if anyone had bikes down there and any bikes not claimed we cut locks/chains and donated to recycle a bicycle.

    We used this article to help in our appealing to the building...Buildings Get Bike Friendly - The New York Times

    The idea was to just have a place to do work that was clean, with a workbench or table that we put some ziploc containers on to use for small parts while working. We put a pump down there. One of the guys had a Park work stand (more on that further down) which we put in the room.

    We all decided it would be best if we kept our own tools and things like carbon assembly paste, anti seize etc but we made a master list of who had what tool and what apartment they lived in which we laminated and posted in the room. The reason we did that was obviously so that they wouldn’t disappear and because we all didn’t have every tool one could use.

    There was room to store bikes but the only bike that we have that we would leave down there is an old Spesh that my wife uses on the trainer. But she decided not to keep it down there because she figured she wouldn’t go downstairs to get it, bring it up in the elevator, use the trainer and then do the reverse. None of us kept our “nice” bikes downstairs. A couple of the residents keep beater types of commuters down there though and go in and out each workday.

    For cleaning bikes, the building has a hose outside the service entrance in a little courtyard that we can use all year but I really only use that when it is warmer. The bike room had no running water/ sink which would have been a nice additions. Oh, and it would have been nice to have a trash bin that was emptied on the building staff’s rounds but we didn’t.

    In order to get in and out of the bike room you have to get a key from the doorman. But there is no “sign out list” for the key and no way to know who does what once they have access to the room and then when they leave and lock it.

    Honestly, none of us really use the bike room at this point. Everybody in the building felt that they had a right to it which is fair. What isn’t fair is that they didn’t respect each other as to what it was set up as. Within a short time there were all manner of bikes strewn hither and yon in the room. The ziploc containers even disappeared. Someone messed up the work stand by removing two of those bolts that turn to hold the arms in the right position. The pump somehow went missing which I didn’t notice because I keep one in my apartment just because it is easier when I go out for a ride.

    So, for all intents and purposes the bike room is no more. The one good thing that came out of it is that we now have a list of tools so that we can all go knock on each other’s door if we need a random spanner wrench or something that is not in our individual tool collections stashed on the top of a closet. And I am back to using the trainer as a work stand while sitting on a little step stool.

    Mike, I don’t mean to be such a downer about it. It may just be the people in my UES building. I kept thinking while typing this that I wonder if it might have worked better in a hipster locale in Brooklyn where people are more communal. We are in the process of moving and one thing I liked is that there are personal storage spaces. I figure I can keep stuff there and continue to work on my bike the way that I do now. I wish the bike room thing had worked here and I wish you luck on yours.
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    Best bike room I've ever seen (and I've seen quite a few after shopping for an apartment in NYC) had cages for general storage that allowed the mounting of hooks to the wall or ceiling of the storage cage for hanging bikes. The cage had a hinged, latched and lockable door and was large enough that if the bikes were hung from the ceiling, there was still enough room below to store odds and ends. This was a large building on Park Avenue, and I was told that every apartment had a storage area, which is uncommon (of course, maintenance in this place was +$5000/month so....)

    The worst one was a medium sized room where all the bikes were "filed" around the periphery, each one leaning on the next bike, leaving a small central area from which to somehow disengage one's bike from the tangled mass. Most bikes looked like their owners stood at the door and threw the bike into the pile. The door to the bike room was wedged open with a door stop, so anyone who got to the basement could get into the bike room. There was a nearby service entrance that went out the back of the building without any real security other than a one way lock and perhaps (outside in the alley) a camera.

    You really want a locked entry to the bike room. And they definitely need some way for the bikes to be hung so they aren't bashing together with other bikes. Bikes with baby seats and kids bikes become projectiles in apartment building bike rooms - enter the room and push throw heave. And it is necessary to have some form of lock on the bikes (you may think you know your neighbors) especially when the value is $$$$$. Most buildings won't cover losses out of the bike room (at your own risk) and some homeowner insurance policies won't cover them either.

    So the best bike room is the one I have in my home office. I invested in some nice racks that allow me to minimize the interference with other things, and cabinets and shelves to handle the bits and pieces. I bring the bike in, up the elevator and into my office.
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    We had a fairly nice locked bike storage room in our previous place with some hooks but people are stupid. Some bikes who were equipped with a bike stand were hooked while bikes without a stand would be left leaning against other bikes. Most would enter frenzy if someone dared putting their bare hands on their cars but treat their bikes as things you just throw against other people's bike without regard to other people's belonging.

    I had the chance to own my own garage but otherwise it would have been upstairs for the pretty/valuable bikes.
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    i lived in a studio for a year in downtown Dallas. 800sq ft-ish. the building was said to have a bike room. i didn't even consider it. cleaning was done in the garage. my girlfriend at the time and i didn't really even need to discuss that bikes would be kept in with us.
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    Yeah, I'd concur with htwoopup. No way a bike room with tools pump workstand is going to work in NYC. Not with space being so precious that any available space opening up immediately becomes a fist fight. And not with that particular style of parenting that allows someone's most specialist bestest little boy to take the hack saw to just about anything with impunity. Wouldn't want to inhibit his creativity.

    Plus shopping for an apartment in NYC will teach you that most people are pigs.
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    My experience in both Manhattan and Boston regarding "free bike storage in the bike room" is the same as Jon and Jorn; nobody cares as much as you do because most bikes are worth less than $100 and rarely, if ever, get used. In some respects, the commuters are the worst because they really do not care about their bikes even though they get used almost every day.

    Thankfully in each location there was a "paid" storage locker option for anything:
    - In Manhattan, the building contracted to have those storage lockers built with roll-up doors and fully enclosed but it was $150 per month. It was well worth the convenience of having it on site for bikes and other off-season items.
    - In Boston, we have a "cage" with an open top so not very secure but there are cameras outside the door. My wife and I leave our bikes (Seven and Trek) in our locked cage and have not had any problems yet. We keep covers on the bikes because the place is very dusty and nasty stuff is always seeping from the ceiling. It's $75 a month but the convenience is worth it.


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    Our building was advertised as having a bike room but when we did the tour we saw that it was just a dusty room with kids bikes in it that must have belonged to people lived in the building as kids and who now have grandchildren of their own.
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    The worst one was a medium sized room where all the bikes were "filed" around the periphery, each one leaning on the next bike, leaving a small central area from which to somehow disengage one's bike from the tangled mass. Most bikes looked like their owners stood at the door and threw the bike into the pile. The door to the bike room was wedged open with a door stop, so anyone who got to the basement could get into the bike room. There was a nearby service entrance that went out the back of the building without any real security other than a one way lock and perhaps (outside in the alley) a camera.
     

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    When we lived in the city, our building had a locked bike room and, if I recall correctly, you had to get the key from the front desk. There were security cameras in the hallways, so I never heard of any issues with theft, but the bike room itself was chaos with bikes filling every free bit of space. The handful of times I was in there, I couldn't figure out how anyone could actually get their bike out of the room (those parked by the door excepted). After a number of years, I understand the building tried to clean out the bike room to make it more usable, but I don't know if it had any lasting impact.

    We had a storage locker in the building that we bought with our apartment (not all apartments had storage units), and that is where I kept my bikes, tools, workstand, etc. I wasn't alone; there were a handful of other guys in the building who would work on their bikes in the storage room late at night after the kiddies are in bed.

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    interesting. so electric air pumps , work benches, tools or spare tubes are not part of a standard bike room or even an upscale one.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fastupslowdown View Post
    interesting. so electric air pumps , work benches, tools or spare tubes are not part of a standard bike room or even an upscale one.
    Yeah, thatís why I have harbored a fantasy that wonít ever come to be because the numbers just donít work.

    The fantasy is that with a lot of small space retail being empty (the fantasy ignores that the reason the space is empty is itís too expensive for even a profit making enterprise) a bunch of cyclists get together and form a communal hangout/ fix up/ tuneup / store bikes club.

    Not for racing or probably not even group rides...just to do the stuff that folks do in a garage which is crazy hard to figure out in space constrained NYC. But by doing it together make it affordable.

    Of course, in the real world the numbers donít work but itís nice to dream.
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    Quote Originally Posted by htwoopup View Post
    Yeah, that’s why I have harbored a fantasy that won’t ever come to be because the numbers just don’t work.

    The fantasy is that with a lot of small space retail being empty (the fantasy ignores that the reason the space is empty is it’s too expensive for even a profit making enterprise) a bunch of cyclists get together and form a communal hangout/ fix up/ tuneup / store bikes club.

    Not for racing or probably not even group rides...just to do the stuff that folks do in a garage which is crazy hard to figure out in space constrained NYC. But by doing it together make it affordable.

    Of course, in the real world the numbers don’t work but it’s nice to dream.
    In europe every city has one or more of them. In France they are called "ateliers participatifs". They are often focused on recycling and rebuilding donated/abandonned old bikes but anyone who pay the small yearly subscription can wrench his bike there. Most active members usually give advices, basic or complete mechanic courses. The biggest one also have some dedicated schedules so that women can learn without feeling mansplained.

    It is more about wrenching than storing though.
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    In central London I keep my bike in the cellar and just use it for short trips (it is a Brompton 2 or 3 miles max). I do very basic work myself but it only involves allen keys and chain oil, and an annual service from a professional. In Austria We have a block of 11 flats, but 13 underground parking places so we have agreed one space can be shared for bikes or storage. Fortunately 50 yards away is the LBS, which is a ski shop in the winter. The chap who runs it has a very civilised tented workspace and the owner, or his son, will help me out on my road or mtb. I feel a little guilty but I have introduced people who hire bikes while on holiday so i think it works. Very lucky.
     

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    Toronto hi-rise condo. Most people rent bike parking in the building scattered around the parking garage. For those who have a parking spot, they allowed you to purchase a pre-approved hanging bike stand for up to two bikes.

    For a handful like myself, I purchased a parking spot with a wire bike locker at the end. They are not the most secure but better than not having something. For this reason I use 3 Kryptonite U locks, Pitlock Skewers and Krypto Cables to lock each bike. The door is then locked with a padlock and another Kryptonite. Both bikes are Rivendells.

    Unlocking my bike is ten minute ordeal so I do have Bromptons in my unit that I can grab if I want a quick form of transportation.

    I have proposed having a bike repair station like you see at trail heads or community centers in a spot in the parking garage but they are balking at the price. Though they did put in two electrical chargers for EV cars and paid for that.

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    I live in NYC and do keep my bikes in the buildings communal basement bike storage room. We have a relatively small building and there are probably 60 bikes total (including kid bikes). I have managed to effectively carve out my own little nook (think 5x4 ft alcove) in that room in, which I have installed a two-tiered bike stand. On that stand I have two bikes, a bike frame and a bag holding cleaning products and a few basic tools. I also keep my pump down there (there are several other pumps in the room as well). My kids bikes are also in that corner of the bike room - sometimes I use them to defend my bikes from the greater bike room hoard. I used to zealously lock everything up but have slowly relaxed my standards. Every resident gets a key to the bike room. No cameras right now but that may happen in the future.

    There are a few nice-ish bikes in the bike room beyond mine but not quite the same (mine are nothing crazy by this boards standards, however, just a Serotta and my current team sponsor carbon wonder bike). No issues during the 10 years I have owned my apartment, thankfully (knocking on my wooden desk). I know I have been both fortunate and lucky. We do separately have a storage unit that came with our apartment, and rent a second one from the building. My rollers and race wheels are in one of them, but no bikes.

    My building also has a courtyard with hose I use for cleaning and gluing tubulars when weather permits.
     

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    NYC for life here (aside from some time as a wee youngster in other parts). Lived in one of the aforementioned Park Ave spots for a spell and did indeed have a private-and-lockable storage area, and that was cool, but I've otherwise yet to see a bike room that didn't seriously sketch me out. But I'm also pretty protective of my rides.
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    35 years of keeping my bikes in my apartment. So far, so good, but N will never be greater than 2.
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    I live in a 2 floored flat (apartment for across the pond people) and for our bikes I use the garage for daily kids school bikes, wifes town bike with permenatly attached Burley and various winter training bikes. There are various workstands and a set of drawers with tools etc, not a lot of space due to the number of bikes so when wanting to work I usualy set up one of the stands in front of garage door, that also goes for when using various rollers in winter. The race bikes are kept in our cellar which is small but with enough space to have 12 bikes in....2 of them hanging. As a kid growing up in London my race bikes were all kept in my bedroom even though we had a small shed in the garden.
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    I live in NYC and my building has a pretty nice bike room- I keep 4 of my bikes there locked to a hanging racks . It works well- and seems really secure

    It’s a nice building - and if it was not I would not be leavings my bikes down there
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