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    Looks interesting. Almost makes sense visually but no idea technically. What would happen in the inevitable crash though? This is meant for track racing.

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    Default Re: Hope-Lotus Ti/Carbon Track bike

    In the event of a crash, can't they just print another?

    PS - maybe it's the angle of the photo, but that looks like a giant gear.
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    Default Re: Hope-Lotus Ti/Carbon Track bike

    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Strongin View Post
    In the event of a crash, can't they just print another?

    PS - maybe it's the angle of the photo, but that looks like a giant gear.
    Yes. Seems like the bike sets up as a track bike or as a pursuit/TT bike by swapping out the handlebars, and that the bars include the titanium fork crown bits as well as the stem bits. So they swapped the bars but not the chainring for the promo event.



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    Default Re: Hope-Lotus Ti/Carbon Track bike

    It looks a lot better with somebody on it.
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    Default Re: Hope-Lotus Ti/Carbon Track bike

    Hope's involvement is the strangest thing about this. They're a MTB parts company!

    (and some other stuff lol)
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    Default Re: Hope-Lotus Ti/Carbon Track bike

    I suppose the idea was to make an English bike and Hope is a company based in England. I am waiting for the UCI to take issue with the design.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by dgaddis View Post
    Hope's involvement is the strangest thing about this. They're a MTB parts company!

    (and some other stuff lol)
    Hope will do the Hipster version with fat 559 tyres.
    Lots of room in that design for wider/shorter tyres.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott G. View Post
    Hope will do the Hipster version with fat 559 tyres.
    Lots of room in that design for wider/shorter tyres.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Jacobs View Post
    I am waiting for the UCI to take issue with the design.
    There's a UCI sticker on the seat tube, but I'm willing to bet we'll see a rule change coming for 2021 or 2022…
     

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    Default Re: Hope-Lotus Ti/Carbon Track bike

    I can't get my head around how the headset works and the fork attaches (apparently it attaches at the top of the headset?), but aside from that I think this is *exactly* the kind of development we would start to see - particularly on road bikes - if the UCI relaxed their rules a little.

    Even my non-scientific dunce brain can see how those wide-leg forks and rear stays would have an aero benefit; and part of me thinks they even look quite cool from some angles...

    Sure, Hope might seem like an odd fit based on their commercial product range - which is MTB-focused - but they're ultimately a technology company (hence 'Hope Tech'), so it's not that bizarre really.

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    And Hope has been building uk made carbon trail bikes for a few years already.
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    hope has added a few road bike parts (road hubs and flat mount calipers) so they could be looking for more market share.
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    Default Re: Hope-Lotus Ti/Carbon Track bike

    Canít wait to casually see one of these under a hipster 20 years from now
     

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    I read somewhere that the wide fork legs and seatstays are to get them inline with the already turbulent air of the rider's legs. I feel like there might even room for more aero tweaking (if UCI allows it) to smooth airflow around the rider's spinning legs.
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    Looks like just the thing to ride for an hour...
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    that's a great looking bike. Pinarello has also been doing custom printed aero bars for the important guys on team sky and some of their track riders. for most of the modern history of competitive cycling- it was the frame and fork that was custom built for the rider. stems, bars , seat posts, and saddles were for the most part, off the shelf components and the frame's geometry was modified to allow for the rider's positionals and desired ride characteristics to be achieved using these stock parts. modern economics have made this no longer the case. companies want their riders riding the actual bikes that they're trying to sell to us-so it's really interesting to see the effort that is going in to producing components like this.

    When Team Sky was using PRO components- they'd intentionally buy and catalog stems and bars that were slihghtly longer or shorter than they should have been- and would use these to optimize their athletes' fits on stock Pinarellos. Custom stems and bars make a lot of sense- especially for track and time trial bikes where there is really only one position for the rider to be supported skeletally- to me its amazing that elite guys were able to achieve their desired TT positions without this technology.
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    The only thing you need to know to explain Hope's involvement in this, they're bloody English and this whole thing is funded by the English government.

    Pretty cool to see these kinds of bikes come out. I am somewhat curious why they announced them now, instead of closer to the games.

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    Hope have had a toe dipped into the road cycling pond for many years - Pro2 and Pro3 hubs were sometimes used on winter training wheels and in more recent times they've had a full range of road wheels including carbon rim models. They've been making road disc brakes for a few years and with the trends of gravel riding and anodising being back they're probably starting to sell.

    Someone in accounting probably noticed that a road frame sells for more than a mountain bike frames despite not having suspension pivots and a shock so it's possible they're looking at making a range of road or gravel frames.

    Plus the whole thing will be heavily funded by the UK's Olympic programme so it's a great way for them to develop tech and IP.

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    Default Re: Hope-Lotus Ti/Carbon Track bike

    Hope have had an interest in track for a few years now so I'm not surprised they were chosen. There's been talk of building a track at their HQ for a few years now.

    Despite been a seemingly MTB specific brand they've been supporting Road / CX for years in the local area to me, as said above, I wouldn't be surprised to see a gravel frame from them in the near future, would be a good fit for them.
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