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    Default Flat Bar Gravel Bike

    Did I miss the memo?
    Did I miss a previous thread?

    What is the point of a flat bar gravel bike?
    Isn't it (almost) the same as a cross bike with flat bars?
    Isn't it (almost) the same as a rigid MTB with flat bars?


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    Default Re: Flat Bar Gravel Bike

    Not a cross, has bottle bosses.

    It is a hybrid with new model Garvin Flexstem,
    the dropper post is to make it easy to load in your Honda Fit.

    Note my new copy of "Vintage Mountain Bike Quarterly" says 26in tires are coming back.
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    Default Re: Flat Bar Gravel Bike

    I'd ride that bike all day long and twice on Sunday.
     

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    Default Re: Flat Bar Gravel Bike

    If you squint it resembles the XC bike I rode in 1994. Plus disc brakes. Hard to be too mad at it.
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    Default Re: Flat Bar Gravel Bike

    I like it.

    I may bolt a Jitensia bar to my road bike and never look back.
     

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    Default Re: Flat Bar Gravel Bike

    Quote Originally Posted by NYCfixie View Post
    Isn't it (almost) the same as a rigid MTB with flat bars?
    Yes. That's what it's for.

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    Default Re: Flat Bar Gravel Bike

    Many of the gravel road images that I see as I peruse the net look like places where mountain bikes once occupied. In other words, they are not places that I would feel comfortable rolling over on a road machine with dropped bars regardless of tire size. This flat bar vixen looks sharp and ready.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexstar View Post
    If you squint it resembles the XC bike I rode in 1994. Plus disc brakes. Hard to be too mad at it.
    The funny thing about that, is the massive success and popularity of those bikes both then, and still today for people who just ride around
    on mixed surfaces. I live near a gravel dyke trail system with many km's of routes, and i see hoards of "old" mtn bikes
    that were never really mountain bikes, and were always used this way, as they are now, but would be marketed today as "gravel bikes".

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexstar View Post
    If you squint it resembles the XC bike I rode in 1994. Plus disc brakes. Hard to be too mad at it.
    Not mad about it. Mostly interested in the fact the I think we have finally come full circle.


    And on a somewhat (weird) related note to coming full circle with newer technology, I saw this wheel build and was intrigued:
    - 32 spoke 3-cross rim brake setup
    - Mavic Open UST carbon 700c rims
    - DT Swiss 240S Hubs
    - DT Revolution 14/17/14
     

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    627 mm top tube for the large. Very different from a drp bar bike.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCfixie View Post
    Mostly interested in the fact the I think we have finally come full circle.
    Bike designs are ultimately a mix of basic ingredients.
    Handlebar, wheels, fork, drivetrain.

    Like how flour, bacon, eggs, & Parmesan with a few minor additions
    can be breakfast, lunch, or dinner depending on how you combine them.

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    Default Re: Flat Bar Gravel Bike

    As mountain bikes move continuously upwards in capability these sorts of bike are coming along to fill in the vacuum. Suntour just publicly announced their 40-60mm travel GVX gravel specific fork. You will be seeing more front suspension drop and flat bar "gravel" bikes over the next few years.

    Quite a few interesting things in the geo chart for this Specialized. It certainly has very flat bar specific geometry with the 70 degree headtube angle for more trail and a long horizontal top tube. 85mm BB drop gives a nice low BB. It's definitely a frame built specifically for this purpose. Also curious that it only comes in three sizes, which I'd guess means Spesh isn't quite sure if this format will sell just yet. Surprising they didn't go for larger tires as there are starting to be 50mm options appearing.

    My question is where would someone ride a bike like this? Green and easy blue single track, riding to and from the trail, plus commuting on weekdays?
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    Default Re: Flat Bar Gravel Bike

    Probably going to be ridden a lot by fairweather folks on bike paths that have gravel sections and rail-trails etc.

    Probably awesome city bikes tbh.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrantM View Post
    The funny thing about that, is the massive success and popularity of those bikes both then, and still today for people who just ride around
    on mixed surfaces. I live near a gravel dyke trail system with many km's of routes, and i see hoards of "old" mtn bikes
    that were never really mountain bikes, and were always used this way, as they are now, but would be marketed today as "gravel bikes".

    -g
    Quote Originally Posted by WheelNut View Post
    ...My question is where would someone ride a bike like this? Green and easy blue single track, riding to and from the trail, plus commuting on weekdays?

    It's a funny and informative video with the flat bar gravel bike showing up at 5:50

     

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    Bike in OP post looks to have modern/current MTB front end geo & stem length
     

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    Default Re: Flat Bar Gravel Bike

    Quote Originally Posted by NYCfixie View Post
    It's a funny and informative video with the flat bar gravel bike showing up at 5:50

    I liked that video, but cannot resist to say they could have used some better-working 26" bikes for the test, there's plenty out there and cheap.
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    Default Re: Flat Bar Gravel Bike

    Yes and I think we came pretty much at the same conclusion in every gravel related thread this last 5 years. They sound a bit like captain obvious.

    Note that they produced another video comparing a canyon gravel and XC hardtail. Unsurprisingly both bikes came obviously pretty close in anything gravelish, the gravel taking the edge on road and gravel when speed was higher mostly thanks to the aero and the xc on the rough stuff and technical bits thanks to geo, tires volumes and position on the bike. I guess an hardtail with a rigid fork would have sit even more inbetween.

    Even in the drop bar world the line is gettig and more blury with bike such as the Ragley Trig or Fustle Causeway with more offroadish geometry:



     

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    apparently I botched the image links:


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    Default Re: Flat Bar Gravel Bike

    And let's not forget John Tomac was doing it a long time ago...



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    Default Re: Flat Bar Gravel Bike

    And even before that, mr. Cunningham had doe it all 40+ years ago? 1x drivetrain, 650b wheels, drop bars with raised stem, OS aluminium frame, the list goes on.
    Makes for today's advertising, blasting this or that innovation, as absolutely ridiculous!

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