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    Quote Originally Posted by Saab2000 View Post
    Superb!


    If you can answer honestly Iíd love to hear what differentiates them. Handling, feel via tube specs, fit?


    Honest questions. Youíve had many fantastic bikes since we first pedaled and Iíd love to hear your take on the evolution.
    First of all, I would like to mention that not everyone needs a ďgravel bikeĒ. This of course depends on the condition of the roads where you ride.

    My first gravel bike was a Sachs team cyclocross bike. Having 32mm tires, I could basically mountain bike! Although the perfect bicycle for racing cyclocross, this wasnít the perfect gravel bike for the terrain I ride. The tire choices at this time were pretty limited too.



    My second gravel bike was Crumpton road bike with 25mm tires. It was amazing until you were flying down a sketchy gravel road and flatted. Not enough volume in the tires. Iím sure Nate Z can comment on these skinny tires.



    Next up was a Hampsten Ti with Nemesis wheels and Strada Bianca 28mm plump tires. This was a huge step up and resulted in less flats. I rode this at Ballers at D2R2 I never flatted. Surely nothing could be better than this! I think I had this bicycle for 3-4 years before getting the Seven Evergreen.



    A huge jump up at least in tire volume and braking was the Seven Evergreen. I felt invincible riding this thing. Carbon wheels, Di2, 38mm Compass tires. I flatted about 8 times in likely 30,000 miles.



    2019 was the year of the Mosiac GT-1. Newer Di2 internal cable routing with a better charging unit inside the handlebar, tru-axle instead of skewers for a stiffer connection and 650B geo for a lower to the ground and sporty feel. Same carbon Enve wheels and Compass tires. I canít imagine anything better than this setup.


     

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    Excellent reviews! Thanks!
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    Default Re: Evolution of the gravel bike.... (for Saab)

    Proper handlebars on all of those properly built and equipped bikes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thollandpe View Post
    Proper handlebars on all of those properly built and equipped bikes.
    Speaking of updating gravel bikes..... even Todd has a disc brake bike. Now he just has to ditch that Campy for Di2!
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCT View Post
    I flatted about 8 times in likely 30,000 miles.
    How many of those can I take credit for?
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    My first gravel bike was a Gunnar Crosshairs with 8S Dura Ace and 35mm Conti tires. I was actually pretty fast on that bike, but like the dedicated Coconino Dirt Road Racer better.
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    My first g-bike was a '90 or '91 Bridgestone MB-0.

    I should have kept it and put drop bars on it.

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    i think Darren's experience probably mirrors many peoples. unless you wanted to use a heavy touring bike, cross bikes were where we all started riding dirt. i fondly remember the early D2R2 days where many/most bikes were cobbled together cross bikes with creative gearing and pasela tires.

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    My first gravel bike was my early 80's Colnago Super. Back in the day, by mid September and post road racing season, I would grow tired of training on the same roads. A pair of Michelin Hi-Lite Cross tires fit on the frame, and off I went, exploring the dirt roads of Leverett, Shutesbury, Montague. Aren't we just doing the same thing we did thirty five years ago?
     

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    My first gravel bike had a banana seat and a 3 speed shifter. It was a gravel bike, a snow bike, a go off jumps bikes, a wheelie bike. They don't make bikes like that anymore.
     

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    Light rigid carbon everything 29’r with light 50 mm tires for me.
    And I do have carbon anD ti cross bikes. Not all gravel is the same.
     

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    If I lived near some of the truly *delicious* gravel riding we have on the outer edges of Sydney (and beyond) it would be all I ride. As it is I can't get to enough of it often enough to justify a gravel bike.

    When my daughter leaves home and we downsize, we plan to get a second place out of town. Hopefully then I'll be nearer some gravel and can justify a bike - that's if Sydney hasn't sprawled into the gravel areas too much, I'm still riding, still fit, and/or still alive and gravel riding is still 'a thing' in 15yrs time...

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    I used a cross bike for quite a few years... had a Ritchey for years, replaced it with a Zanc and used that for 10 years or so...
    then used one of my Times for quite a few gravel rides for a couple of years... perfect but imperfect.. would only fit a 25 tire and if stuff stuck to the tire it could nip the seat tube... small groove worn.
    Finally stepped up to ( last year ) a Specialized Roubaix...
    I like it a lot... 28c road wheels, separate 32c gravel wheels...Di-2, hydro discs, through axles... It also has a "headshock"..adjustable
    slight suspension in the headset... It works great on washboard stuff but I mostly turn it off in normal riding.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by WFSTEKL View Post
    My first gravel bike was my early 80's Colnago Super. Back in the day, by mid September and post road racing season, I would grow tired of training on the same roads. A pair of Michelin Hi-Lite Cross tires fit on the frame, and off I went, exploring the dirt roads of Leverett, Shutesbury, Montague. Aren't we just doing the same thing we did thirty five years ago?
    No kidding.

    S.White built Big Red for me in 2005. I asked him to use 32c Tubulars, fenders and a steel fork. The next year we did D2R2. It's a road bike.

    Road bikes are gravel bikes full stop.

    Disavow yourselves any notion I'm a buzzkill. A spanky new 44Bikes huntsman is about to land on my doorstep. Better brakes, larger tires yeah yeah yeah because daddy likes to go faster on dirt with fewer flats is why ')
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    Quote Originally Posted by vertical_doug View Post
    My first gravel bike had a banana seat and a 3 speed shifter. It was a gravel bike, a snow bike, a go off jumps bikes, a wheelie bike. They don't make bikes like that anymore.
    Am I the only one who grew up in a town with miles of gravel alley ways and farm roads?

    Parents downsized a few years ago, I had to say goodbye

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by vertical_doug View Post
    Am I the only one who grew up in a town with miles of gravel alley ways and farm roads?

    Parents downsized a few years ago, I had to say goodbye

    Nice!

    Where I grew up most roads were paved, so we didnít take them off the paved surfaces. No need. Iím sure there are some in NE Wisconsin, but they werenít really part of the standard riding routes of anyone I knew. So paved it was. Riding unpaved roads never occurred to me until I went on Joshís early Ballers Ride.

    The way I see it is that all gravel bikes are road bikes but not all road bikes are gravel bikes. That line is very blurry in 2020.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Too Tall View Post
    No kidding.

    S.White built Big Red for me in 2005. I asked him to use 32c Tubulars, fenders and a steel fork. The next year we did D2R2. It's a road bike.

    Road bikes are gravel bikes full stop.

    Disavow yourselves any notion I'm a buzzkill. A spanky new 44Bikes huntsman is about to land on my doorstep. Better brakes, larger tires yeah yeah yeah because daddy likes to go faster on dirt with fewer flats is why ')
    Big tires are a revelation on gravel and dirt.

    Yeah, you can do it on skinny tires. But bigger tires are way more betterer.
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    My First Gravel bike looked like.
    Note, soft tail, with built in frame bag/tank, mild knobbys.
    steel saddle, excellent prep for a future Brooks rider.
    (nb, mine had the mudguards removed)

    Mattel_Bike1.jpg
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saab2000 View Post
    Nice!

    Where I grew up most roads were paved, so we didn’t take them off the paved surfaces. No need. I’m sure there are some in NE Wisconsin, but they weren’t really part of the standard riding routes of anyone I knew. So paved it was. Riding unpaved roads never occurred to me until I went on Josh’s early Ballers Ride.

    The way I see it is that all gravel bikes are road bikes but not all road bikes are gravel bikes. That line is very blurry in 2020.
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    Crumpton with 25mm tires. Just sayin'

     

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