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    Default Re: Cavendish has a suitcase packed…just in case

    Quote Originally Posted by progetto View Post
    As much as I admire Marks talents, I hope this doesn't happen.
    Cavendish has tried to play down any comparison between himself and Eddy Merckx, pointing out Merckx's ability to win mountain stages and time trials as well as sprints.

    Merckx's 34 stage wins came from just 7 Tours de France. Mark Cavendish is currently riding his 13th Tour de France.

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    Default Re: Cavendish has a suitcase packed…just in case

    Cav isn’t Eddy and Eddy isn’t Cav…in spite of the photo that I used to start the thread. However, we all concur that they are both legends of the sport in their own unique ways and Cav is certainly making this year’s TDF all the more exciting for this poseur. He would certainly be fun to ride along with in the mountains for the next week or so, as you know he’s strategizing about stages, 11, 13, 19 and 21.
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    Default Re: Cavendish has a suitcase packed…just in case

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Jacobs View Post
    ...Merckx's 34 stage wins came from just 7 Tours de France...
    Wow, did not remember this.
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    Default Re: Cavendish has a suitcase packed…just in case

    Didn’t realise CAV only made the time cut by 90s on stage 9; and it was getting close after Ventoux.

    Many of his sprint rivals are now out. On paper, stage 12 is a sprint stage, but crosswinds could ruin that. Otherwise 13 could be where the record gets equaled. After that, there’s 5-days in the Pyrenees - which I’m not sure he will survive given that he’s already had 2 near misses time-wise.

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    Default Re: Cavendish has a suitcase packed…just in case

    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Jacobs View Post
    Cavendish has tried to play down any comparison between himself and Eddy Merckx, pointing out Merckx's ability to win mountain stages and time trials as well as sprints.

    Merckx's 34 stage wins came from just 7 Tours de France. Mark Cavendish is currently riding his 13th Tour de France.
    I hope it does happen. Racing is different today with tactics, radios and more information. The long solo breaks of tour leaders are a thing of the past. That's why Hinault is number 3 with 28. He was the last of the old era riders.

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    Default Mont Ventoux: the dish on Cav

    My friend and I went for a spin last night and as we were riding out of town, we said we'd love to know what Cav's time up Ventoux yesterday was. Cav's not on Strava, so my friend looked up a rider who assists him and climbed the same time.

    1:19:23

    More than 20 min difference with Poga but not a bad time at all.

    Before Strava existed my friend climbed Ventoux from Bedoin and he believes his time was something like 1h20m and he thought he was fast.

    I'm curious, does anyone have any data points for Ventoux?

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    Sprinters can't climb and climbers can't sprint is only true when comparing to the immortals.

    I'm sure a tour sprinter climbs better and the climber sprints better when compared to the mortals.

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    Default Re: Mont Ventoux: the dish on Cav

    Apparently, Cav was in the last group to arrive in a bunch of about 10. There were 2 other guys behind that group who both finished on their own; the last with only 3 seconds to spare!

    https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/mar...we-misses-out/

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    Default Re: Cavendish has a suitcase packed…just in case

    Quote Originally Posted by RichTheRoadie View Post
    Didn’t realise CAV only made the time cut by 90s on stage 9; and it was getting close after Ventoux.

    Many of his sprint rivals are now out. On paper, stage 12 is a sprint stage, but crosswinds could ruin that. Otherwise 13 could be where the record gets equaled. After that, there’s 5-days in the Pyrenees - which I’m not sure he will survive given that he’s already had 2 near misses time-wise.
    Are those near-misses or precise rides by a steady vet? Seems to me he's putting his efforts where they're required and riding no faster than he needs to to win. Stage 10 was a great example - he didn't panic when the other teams put a lot of energy into distancing him when it went to echelons. He and the team measured their response and were perfectly in place to dominate the final 3km.
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    Default Re: Cavendish has a suitcase packed…just in case

    Quote Originally Posted by holliscx View Post
    My friend and I went for a spin last night and as we were riding out of town, we said we'd love to know what Cav's time up Ventoux yesterday was. Cav's not on Strava, so my friend looked up a rider who assists him and climbed the same time.

    1:19:23

    More than 20 min difference with Poga but not a bad time at all.

    Before Strava existed my friend climbed Ventoux from Bedoin and he believes his time was something like 1h20m and he thought he was fast.

    I'm curious, does anyone have any data points for Ventoux?
    I climbed it twice in 2018. The second, much faster time for that same segment took me 2:09:48.

    Quote Originally Posted by jmgorman View Post
    Are those near-misses or precise rides by a steady vet?
    Fair question, but I'm not sure I'm buying it.

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    Default Re: Cavendish has a suitcase packed…just in case

    Quote Originally Posted by jmgorman View Post
    Are those near-misses or precise rides by a steady vet? Seems to me he's putting his efforts where they're required and riding no faster than he needs to to win. Stage 10 was a great example - he didn't panic when the other teams put a lot of energy into distancing him when it went to echelons. He and the team measured their response and were perfectly in place to dominate the final 3km.
    Precise rides by a cagey vet on a team that knows what they’re doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saab2000 View Post
    Precise rides by a cagey vet on a team that knows what they’re doing.
    Like driving a road rally, hit the control points right on time.

    DS just needs a Halda Speed Pilot.


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    Default Re: Cavendish has a suitcase packed…just in case

    A mightily impressive showing by Cav. Cap duly doffed.

    First time in 45yrs that the green jersey has been retained by one team for the whole tour too (Matthews wore it for stage 2, but only because Alaphilippe couldn’t wear 2 jerseys).

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