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    i'm sure there are great and not great fitters who all want the same thing.. and that is... to fit a bike to you.
    at some point, not unlike developing a beautiful tennis serve... once the basics are in place... and that means roughly that you like where your cleats, saddle, and handlebars are... and the wheels happen to be in the right place...

    i think you have to just work on it. and most folks never really make the connections in their own head to their own body. and so it really happens a lot in your head.

    it shouldn't take a genius to put the pieces together but the biking is deceptive because it looks easy but it isn't.

    riding next to justin from svelte.. the guy looks so pretty. think of the tens of thousands of miles..... every damn day for years to get there... on top of having long femurs and arms and all that....

    i'm tapping out of this one... i'm no genius, i have no talent on the bike... and i said all i know. too many dudes here know way more than i do...
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    Quote Originally Posted by e-RICHIE View Post
    be the fitter atmo.
    yes, i am serious.
    not everything is or can be tidied and packaged for consumption.
    ride. make notes. what's hurts? do any parts wear fast or ache?
    the saw, if it looks good, it prolly is good, is more vaild here than not.
    but nothing replaces what and how you feel.
    this is the best way to learn. by feel...

    definately like learning tennis. federer, nadal, agassi all hit the ball a bit different with grips, styles, etc but they are all awesome.

    live and learn atmo
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarrenCT View Post
    this is the best way to learn. by feel...

    definately like learning tennis. federer, nadal, agassi all hit the ball a bit different with grips, styles, etc but they are all awesome.

    live and learn atmo
    I'll bet they could all touch their toes.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan View Post
    I'll bet they could all touch their toes.
    also see their shoes.....
     

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    I'm glad I've gotten old, cranky and don't really give a damm about someone riding position other then my own or how they arrived at it.

    And if mine sucks I hope you don't give a damm about it either.
     

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    Q: why did they make the windows on the Gremlin so big? A: so you could get a good look at who would buy one. Sabe? Steve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by steve garro View Post
    Q: why did they make the windows on the Gremlin so big? A: so you could get a good look at who would buy one. Sabe? Steve.
    What does that say about a Pacer?
     

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    but the javelin... now that was a car
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    This is Steve Pucci antiquing with an unidentified woman.

    The eight track holds Englebert Humperdinck and he's gonna get some tonight fo' sure.
     

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    the gremlin.
    the high point of usa car manufacturing.

    that car was hot.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarrenCT View Post
    also see their knees.....
    Fit is directly proportional to fitness.

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    muhahahaha
     

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    Fit is directly proportional to fitness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by e-RICHIE View Post
    practice makes perfect.
    Some say that practice makes permanent, and that only perfect practice makes perfect - for the duration that practice is perfect.
     

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    Default I was one of them

    Yes, I owned a tall head tubed Serotta. It was a gorgeous bike that was a pleasure to ride when cruising, but was less great when descending. I have a bad back, but I think I over-compensated with this frame, so I sold it to someone else who has back issues, and to my knowledge, he is enjoying it.

    I am preparing to take posession of a new frame that will challenge my physiology, but it has been recommended by the builder. I am curious to see how my body adapts, but have the option of 3cm spacers in case it cannot. For me, cycling is more about fun than looks and high performance, though I know exactly what you are talking about when you say that you don't like tall head tubes.

    I get it.

    Photos of new ride to follow sometime in the next few months.-
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTBS View Post
    Some say that practice makes permanent, and that only perfect practice makes perfect - for the duration that practice is perfect.
    I heard that from some golf guru once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dwightskin View Post
    Here's how to get a proper fit:

    1) Buy a stock roadbike - let the 16 year old at the shop pick the size.
    2) Ride, Ride, Ride
    3) Tweak stock road bike - saddle position, stem, Bars, maybe cleats
    4) Ride, Ride, Ride
    5) Start to understand training and power and heart rate
    6) Ride, Ride, Ride
    7) Understand equipment limitations and trade-offs (weight vs durability)
    8) Determine what kind of riding style fits you (racing, commuting, day ride)
    9) Then sign up for fit session and custom bike.


    Lot's of folks skip steps 1-8. Escpecally folks with money.

    +1. I noticed this morning that my left femur is shorter than my right. Might have to measure when I get home. either that or my crank arms are different lengths...


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    i thk the best fits are made by someone with a lot of experience looking at you from 20' away.

    saddle height and set back is easy
    reach and drop less easy.. cause you can run into physical limitations.

    all in all it can be done pretty easily.
    a good eye can feel the limits.

    all this is art rather than science and pretty close is usually pretty good.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveP View Post
    i thk the best fits are made by someone with a lot of experience looking at you from 20' away.

    saddle height and set back is easy
    reach and drop less easy.. cause you can run into physical limitations.

    all in all it can be done pretty easily.
    a good eye can feel the limits.

    all this is art rather than science and pretty close is usually pretty good.
    Once again, SteveP hits one out of the hockey rink.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by DarrenCT View Post
    also see their shoes.....
    OK, thread drift, big time, but . . .

    In the mid-70s I was lucky enough to hit a few balls with Don Budge, quite a few years (several decades) after he became the first man to win a grand slam. The guy still used an unwrapped wooden grip (Wilson Jack Kramer, stripped of the leather, with little grooves sawed into the handle). There's no way he moved like he once did, but he was still fit, still covered the court, and still hit very SOLID balls off both sides. He could definitely see his shoes if he wanted, but he mostly kept his eyes on the ball. OTOH, Bobby Riggs, by the time he played his famous matches with Margaret Court Smith and Billy Jean King, had become tubby. He kind of waddled around the court. That was his shtick, really. I'm not saying it was pretty, or that he wouldn't have been healthier if he'd shed the gut, but who was I to tell the guy not to play under those conditions?
     

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