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    Default Campagnolo Thread

    I didn't see a dedicated thread for Campagnolo. Let's use this thread for general product releases and builds.

    Starting things off with some prototype testing at, where else, the Giro. Clean slate in the graphics department. I hope they don't go overboard like they usually do, but I'm sure they will.

    New Campagnolo Testing.
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    well, they've certainly been influenced by the Japanese

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    Oh dear, that's just awful. From the best looking cranks in the business to Ace Frehley's codpiece.

    And don;t even try to tell me there's a functional advantage of four chainring bolts over five.

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    Not a fan at all. From an aesthetic point of view, I was regretting making the change to DA 9000 before this intro. Now, not so much.

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    Once the chainrings are dark anodized and colour-matched I think they'll look great. Hopefully there is a Stages / powermeter option for them.

    Every new Campagnolo groupset in the past 20 years has introduced another cassette cog. Will this years go to 12?

    The rear derailleur is fantastic
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    Barf, it looks like a bad motorcycle part.

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    I bet the stuff is going to be wicked light and stiff and it's made for pro racing. I wasn't sold on the 9000 stuff either but I think it's a pretty attractive group set now.

    My only reservation about this is that it seems to simply be a response to Shimano, and a copy in a lot of ways. That front der looks just like the Shimano front der and the crank has obvious similarities too.

    Obviously, they feel mechanical shifting isn't dead yet either, and for this I'm thankful.
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    Designing groupsets is half engineering and half fashion: the designers need to guess what frames, clothing, and accessories are going to look like 5 years from now and tailor their groupsets to match. Every new groupset which is launched looks ugly and futuristic in the early catalogue and web 'spyshots.' 11 speed Campag was heavily criticized for the 'beached whale' shifters being huge and ugly but they fit well with modern frames, tapered forks etc.

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    I'm confused.
    What is the need for a new FD when the current one is very quick even when not using Campagnolo crankset&chainrings??
    I call for better frame designs. Beefy FD brackets and chainstays made to the right size.
    It is completely pointless to have a new -improved- FD when its bracket on the frame is so flimsy that you can move it with one finger; and/or some frame designers think that a 395mm chainstay length is the perfect thing.
    Goddamn no!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tristan View Post
    Designing groupsets is half engineering and half fashion: the designers need to guess what frames, clothing, and accessories are going to look like 5 years from now and tailor their groupsets to match. Every new groupset which is launched looks ugly and futuristic in the early catalogue and web 'spyshots.' 11 speed Campag was heavily criticized for the 'beached whale' shifters being huge and ugly but they fit well with modern frames, tapered forks etc.
    I agree, that's why I've stocked in pre-2008 10sp shifters, Record square taper cranks, non-skeleton brakes, etc.
    My bikes do not resemble a space-shuttle, and they never will, so those cranks have no place in my setup.
    Bring back the C-Record shape made in carbon, FFS!!!
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    I agree with this about the front derailleur. I have 3 bikes with the modern shifters and front derailleurs. The shifting is simply beyond reproach. Three clicks up and three down. And there's no trimming needed. It's quick and easy.

    We shall see how it works. I bet the TdF will have a lot of stuff in use.

    As for more gears, I don't see that happening until 135 spacing is more common.
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    I will reserve my judgment for when I see the final parts.

    As Saab, happy to see continued development in mechanical shifting.

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    I think it looks great, sign me up. Advantages: after-market rings (Praxis, Rotor) and less weight. Shimano wasn't the first to introduce fewer chain-ring arms/bolts, Deda was. The front derailleur does look like a Shimano crib but how else are you going to gain more leverage other than a longer arm on the front derailleur? The Hirth joint stays and hopefully a larger diameter axled version. Cool! RS seems much less interesting now though...

    @Gattonero, +1000 for better hangers and longer chain-stays.

    @Tristan - I was loading my bike up to go race this am and had a broken drive-side Sapim spoke on the rear wheel, right in the middle - thought of you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maggierose View Post
    RS seems much less interesting now though...
    I suppose the question that comes to mind is does the RS group fit in with these future changes?
    It appears to be a temporary stop gap until this new stuff arrives.

    The official Campagnolo web site - Bicycle Parts and Components Cycling - Campagnolo presents the new Super Record RS Groupset

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    Shimano will probably introduce some refinements with the DA 9050 in october, and Sram with the Red 22&1/2 soon after.
    Get ready for a new groupset every 10 months.

    New fixtures jigs, more tools in the workshop; any takers??
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    Quote Originally Posted by thollandpe View Post
    Oh dear, that's just awful. From the best looking cranks in the business to Ace Frehley's codpiece.
    Now that's an image you can't un-imagine! Not unlike my nickname* for DA9000** hoods.

    Just when I was starting to warm up Campagnolo's recent stuff, now this...

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    *** Not being sarcastic! I'd ride it if I could get a good enough deal on it; and I'm sure I'd grow to like it in time.
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    This is going to be the real deal! Proper innovation!
    Why no one has ever thought of variable-length cranks? Longer for the climb, shorter for the quick spin.
    Ah, am a genius and no one understands me! Duh...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul View Post
    well, they've certainly been influenced by the Japanese

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    wow
    i havent seen that.
    ouch.

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    Campyphile, record on 5 bikes, and this shit is terrible. Totally, throw up inducing. Put me down for ' hating It.'
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    like it. crankset will probably retail for $1200 tho
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