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    Default Brooks Saddles, Cue Flying Pigs!

    This is a major departure for them, although they are using fairly organic materials except for the frame. Offering people to test ride is also risky. They must have confidence in the design. Not sure of the long term grip of this combination (cotton/rubber) or the acquired smells it will take on, but good for Brooks for moving forward in saddle design. I might want to wait for the Levi's 501 version.

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    P.S. Maybe I should have said flying cows.
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    Seems like it would eat lycra for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
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    Default Re: Brooks Saddles, Cue Flying Pigs!

    Looking forward to buying one when available. Skeptical but worth a try.

    I don't eat dead (or alive for that matter) animals of any kind and do not own leather anything, except for four bicycle saddles. I've tried every sort of modern plastic saddle to no avail. Something about my body seems to only adjust to hammock saddles.

    Fortunately I don't wear lycra so no problem there either.

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    Default Re: Brooks Saddles, Cue Flying Pigs!

    Cotton = hot spot. I don't get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jitahs View Post
    Cotton = hot spot. I don't get it.

    - owner of 3 Brooks.
    Many of us have wanted a vegan Brooks for a long time. There are various threads out there. My guess is that a Lorica type cover was deemed too declasse so they went with a natural fiber. I hope the vulcanization fills in the weave enough so that it does not ruin lycra. That being said, I want one for my Brompton, so that isn't a huge concern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew J View Post
    Looking forward to buying one when available. Skeptical but worth a try.

    I don't eat dead (or alive for that matter) animals of any kind and do not own leather anything, except for four bicycle saddles. I've tried every sort of modern plastic saddle to no avail. Something about my body seems to only adjust to hammock saddles.

    Fortunately I don't wear lycra so no problem there either.
    I mean nothing by this question, genuine curiosity.

    Shoes???

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    Quote Originally Posted by TMB View Post
    I mean nothing by this question, genuine curiosity.

    Shoes???
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    Quote Originally Posted by ptourkin View Post
    Many of us have wanted a vegan Brooks for a long time. There are various threads out there. My guess is that a Lorica type cover was deemed too declasse so they went with a natural fiber. I hope the vulcanization fills in the weave enough so that it does not ruin lycra. That being said, I want one for my Brompton, so that isn't a huge concern.
    That makes sense though there are so many durable, lightweight synthetic leather-like covers out there it's sort of purposefully anachronistic to make a cover out of a Belstaff waxed cotton jacket.

    But yup, Brommies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TMB View Post
    I mean nothing by this question, genuine curiosity.

    Shoes???
    Still not a great selection, but there are some decent choices out there: Dr. Martens 1461 Vegan 3-Eye Gibson Navy Cambridge Brush - Zappos.com Free Shipping BOTH Ways

    Helped by the greater acceptance of casual business attire here. I've even worn Dr. Martens to the Appellate Court without getting any raspberries.

    Vegetarian Shoes UK has a lot of styles but most are the kind of thing only a Brit could pull off in public.

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    Vegan and Vegetarian shoes. Only on Vsalon.
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    Default Re: Brooks Saddles, Cue Flying Pigs!

    very cool! i like it and bet it will great on a variety of bikes.
    you're not the lord of the flies

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    Default Re: Brooks Saddles, Cue Flying Pigs!

    I'm going to try it on my commuter bike. Even with a cover, I still seem to get black stains on my light colored office pants. Will hope this fixes that.
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    Default Re: Brooks Saddles, Cue Flying Pigs!

    i for one am glad that the old classifieds are open again because i cant wait to see how many end up on there:
    -lightly used.
    -smells of patchouli.
    -never crashed/raced.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chance Legstrong View Post
    i for one am glad that the old classifieds are open again because i cant wait to see how many end up on there:
    -lightly used.
    -smells of patchouli.
    -never crashed/raced.
    Umm... yeah... because a lot of people race on their leather Brooks saddles? I put over 10,000 miles on my Alliante last year. It's vegan too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptourkin View Post
    I put over 10,000 miles on my Alliante last year. It's vegan too.
    Exactly.

    Frankly I would be very happy with modern Fizik saddles on my bikes. After spending several $k on different models, I finally had to accept there is something about my scrawny behind that just does not agree with molded saddles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptourkin View Post
    Sidis!
    Business attire is more difficult but possible. My personal position is that if it is stuff that I already had when I made this decision, I keep it, so I still have old well-made wingtips, etc.. in my closet. Fortunately, as it wears out, there are good looking alternatives now. Suits are a bigger problem, as wool and bone buttons are omnipresent.
    Wool is out too? In the larger sense of harm to animals, wool would seem lower on the scale in the amount animals displaced or killed compared to the harvesting of fiber crops or manufacture of synthetics. I grew up around sheep and it's not the same game as feed-lot cattle, factory chicken or pigs. Let the jokes begin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aaronv View Post
    Wool is out too? In the larger sense of harm to animals, wool would seem lower on the scale in the amount animals displaced or killed compared to the harvesting of fiber crops or manufacture of synthetics. I grew up around sheep and it's not the same game as feed-lot cattle, factory chicken or pigs. Let the jokes begin.
    This is true, but it all comes down to why an individual lives a vegan lifestyle. If the reason is to support the ethical treatment of animals, than despite the fact that the animals are not being killed they are certainly being confined and often fed unnatural diets to produce quality wool. I can't speak for your experience with sheep, but I spent a lot of time on a number of farms in my youth, and while the sheep I interacted with were generally treated well, I can still understand the objection from someone who does not care to support use of animals as living, small production factories. Same goes for leather. That being said, if the cause is environmental, then there is probably a lower impact on the planet for production of a wool saddle than a synthetic saddle like a fizik.

    I'll be interested to see how this pans out.
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    Default Re: Brooks Saddles, Cue Flying Pigs!

    Personally, I've chosen to avoid all such products without analyzing each as to its relative level of cruelty or exploitation. It's a personal choice. However, if one did wish to explore that issue, I'd be careful before doing a Google image search of "mulesing." I know this practice is not universal and that there are more compassionate means of production. I've simply chosen not to participate.

    Regarding the obvious question regarding use of carbon-based products and their environmental impact - I think the analysis depends on many value judgements. I do use tires, tubes, CF, and other things on my bikes that are produced by less than perfect means. I also lead a largely car-free lifestyle that can be seen as somewhat of an off-set. In the end. We all make choices that reflect personal values and we come out with different answers.

    I appreciate the genuine curiousity of the questions.

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