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    Default Re: 2020 TdF with spoilers.

    Quote Originally Posted by holliscx View Post
    see also Slovenia
    I just now discovered that Luka Doncic and Goran Dragic -- pro basketball players who are both involved in the current NBA playoffs, for Denver and Miami respectively -- are also Slovenian!

    And yet three weeks ago I probably couldn't have differentiated Slovenia from Slovakia.

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    Default Re: 2020 TdF with spoilers.

    Pogacar is using rim brakes for the final stage. That gives him the option of taking a wheel from Neutral Service, if necessary, but not from all of his team mates, some of whom are on discs.

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    I like the fact a 40-year-old is still competitive.

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    Noticed in the overhead shot of the sprint Wout was right next to the barrier, got pinched a bit and had to stop pedaling, immediately dropped 2+ bike lengths, made up more than that at the end. Its cool green jersey Bennett won the final stage sprint, definitely the best sprinter in this years TDF.
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    I'm happy to see that the tour was full of interesting and exciting racing this year.
    Many different riders shined.
    It's good when the Tour is not completely dominated by a team.
    I'd bet that Kragh Andersen had the most fun.
    I'm sure that he had a lot more fun than Roglic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by claritycycler View Post
    Noticed in the overhead shot of the sprint Wout was right next to the barrier, got pinched a bit and had to stop pedaling, immediately dropped 2+ bike lengths, made up more than that at the end. Its cool green jersey Bennett won the final stage sprint, definitely the best sprinter in this years TDF.
    Bennett clearly had a first jump that caught Sagan flat-footed time and time again. Even on the Champs-Elysees where Sagan was glued to Bennett's wheel, Bennett got in maybe two pedal strokes before Sagan reacted. I think that jump must have kept Sagan feeling a bit unbalanced the whole race, and then he was watching not reacting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Walberg View Post
    .... I'd bet that Kragh Andersen had the most fun...
    Now that I've seen the last stage, it is clear that Sam Bennett had the most fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionel View Post
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    Not me........as I already have one, albeit disc
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    It was nice to see Pogacar's teammates riding with him for a change yesterday.
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    Default Re: 2020 TdF with spoilers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Ross View Post
    I just now discovered that Luka Doncic and Goran Dragic -- pro basketball players who are both involved in the current NBA playoffs, for Denver and Miami respectively -- are also Slovenian!

    And yet three weeks ago I probably couldn't have differentiated Slovenia from Slovakia.

    I think I heard Phil Liggett say that riders from 12 countries won stages. I like that trend.

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    Phil still commentates?

    Anyway, that's a wrap for 2020. The Worlds are this weekend (I kind of like this dis-jointed season). Back to the regular 2020 racing thread.

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    From CyclingNews:

    Dumoulin has been on a positive trajectory since the Tour de l'Ain, going from 11th there to seventh at the Dauphiné, and now seventh at the Tour.

    His ride in Saturday's time trial was his best result at a Grand Tour since the final time trial at the 2018 Tour, even if the abiding memory of his performance will be his bewilderment at Pogačar's ride – "I don't know how Pogačar climbed a minute faster than I did," he said later on Saturday afternoon.

    The theme of bewilderment continued on Sunday, with the 30-year-old insisting that he had put up power numbers comparable to his 2017 World Championships time trial victory in Bergen, Norway.

    "My values were World Championship-worthy values. That's great to see," he said. "That's why I was all the more surprised that Pogačar was 1:21 faster.

    "I'm sure I can tell you I'm never going to reach that level. I may be able to win one per cent somewhere, but not five per cent."
    Arkea-Samsic's hotel was raided by French police, and an investigation has been opened based on what they found.

    https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/fre...our-de-france/

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    They didn't exactly ride like they were taking drugs... but that could just damn everyone else!

    Dumoulin is comparing apples with pineapples there. His 2017 result was on a different course and not at the end of three week's of racing. Also the motivation is very different (riding for a result or putting out a marker for Roglic versus going for yellow). Pogacar also threw caution to the wind in that time trial. Had he blown up with 1.5kms to go and Roglic hung on, then people would have been commenting about measuring the effort and his relative inexperience.

    In any event, I feel a little sorry for Dumoulin. He had the world at his feet in 2017. Had he led down the descent of the Finestre chased Froome instead of relying on the terrible descending of FDJ, he probably would have won his second Giro in 2018. Then injured in 2019 and now the sands have shifted with two very youthful TdF winners in a row and he's team mate to the next best. Maybe he's lost his chance at a final yellow jersey and he's not yet 30.

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    Dumoulin has been on a positive trajectory since the Tour de l'Ain, going from 11th there to seventh at the Dauphiné, and now seventh at the Tour.

    His ride in Saturday's time trial was his best result at a Grand Tour since the final time trial at the 2018 Tour, even if the abiding memory of his performance will be his bewilderment at Pogačar's ride – "I don't know how Pogačar climbed a minute faster than I did," he said later on Saturday afternoon.

    The theme of bewilderment continued on Sunday, with the 30-year-old insisting that he had put up power numbers comparable to his 2017 World Championships time trial victory in Bergen, Norway.

    "My values were World Championship-worthy values. That's great to see," he said. "That's why I was all the more surprised that Pogačar was 1:21 faster.

    "I'm sure I can tell you I'm never going to reach that level. I may be able to win one per cent somewhere, but not five per cent."
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    On a positive trajectory file with a bloody good rider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j44ke View Post
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    Arkea-Samsic's hotel was raided by French police, and an investigation has been opened based on what they found.

    https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/fre...our-de-france/

    There's just no wrap, is there? On and on more likely.
    Arkea Samsic boss is already trying to distanciate his team from the columbian riders and their entourage and raise the "we are part of the MPCC" but this is not convincing...I am no team boss but I am not sure how one rider could do transfusion in an hotel without knowing about it.

    But this definitely taint other teams and riders who have worked alongside the Quintana brothers...I am thinking Movistar, Valverde, Landa...
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    Dumoulin may have been surprised that Pogacar climbed a minute faster than he did but Pogacar's time was not unprecedented. It was only two seconds faster than Fabio Aru in 2017 and only 10 seconds faster than Froome in 2012.

    La Planche des Belles Filles
    2020:5,9 km@8,5%---16:10---average speed 21.90 km/h(Tadej Pogacar)-RECORD
    2019:5,9 km@8,5%---17:30---average speed 20.23 km/h(Thomas Pidcock) -Strava
    2019:7,0 km@8,7%---20:02---average speed 20.97 km/h(Geraint Thomas)-finish at 1139m
    2017:5,9 km@8,5%---16:12---average speed 21.85 km/h(Fabio Aru)
    2014:5,9 km@8,5%---16:44---average speed 21.16 km/h(Vincenzo Nibali)
    2012:5,9 km@8,5%---16:20---average speed 21.67 km/h(Chris Froome)

    Geraint Thomas's time is for the longer 7.0 km from last year when they carried on up the track to a higher finish.

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