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    Hopefully this weekend marked a safe return for the riders. Last week showed that the protocols, however effective they may ultimately be are at least enforceable and that teams have a lot of discretion to pull participation. All of which means more accountability, I hope.

    Wout is back! Bettiol showed that last year’s Flanders was no fluke. The finishing gaps were massive, and there were lots of rim brakes.

    AvV continues her domination. Though pre-ride crashes and a theft of bikes from Trek-Segafredo put some on the back foot.

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    Great to see some racing...

    Van Aert solos to victory at Strade Bianche | CyclingTips

    But, those cases keep coming in Europe. New cases double in Belgium. Spikes in France. It is really hard to see season 2020 panning out as planned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBB View Post
    Great to see some racing...

    Van Aert solos to victory at Strade Bianche | CyclingTips

    But, those cases keep coming in Europe. New cases double in Belgium. Spikes in France. It is really hard to see season 2020 panning out as planned.
    And he won on rim brakes!! Amazing.

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    awesome display. seemed touch and go, I thought Formolo was going to get him or Schacman might leapfrog to him. eerie finale with virtually no one lining that crazy finish...
    let's enjoy it while we can because I am not very enthusiastic about the second wave waiting around. Out on my bike recently in CT and people are looking far to comfortable (seems like less than 20% of mask wearers). Spectators, from the bit I watched, seemed comparable.
    What happened to MVdP? Puncture?

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    MvdP punctured and overcooked. I always wondered about his big Olympic MTB goal in the heat in Tokio. Spring classics in summer. MSR next weekend!
    What a ride by van Aert! Such good racing.

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    It was really good, incredible effort form the riders on a very tough day. Good to see lots of people giving water to the riders. And fantastic scenery!
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    At some point I was afraid we would had to watch a time trial from Fuglsang but it was not to be. Great race and a great winner as always. Women race was also great. It must have been tough for everybody with that temperature and pictures gives an air of old school racing :

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    I don't think he punctured when fuglsang attacked, nor did Alaphilippe. They were just not in their best shape compared to the fastest riders. That race is a bitch if you are not 100%. You cannot fake or use your teammates as much as possible to keep energy for the last 10k. Season is condensed into a few months but it is still too long for them to stay in a peak of form and seems to short to have 2 peaks of forms. There may have been some gambling between riders who will try to maximise their results early on in case corona force another stop and others who target specific races or worlds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sbti View Post
    And he won on rim brakes!! Amazing.
    Let's be done with this game. It is silly. Evenpoel also won a climby stage race on discs. Meaningless on both counts.

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    Alaphilippe had a heck of a day: 5 flats + broken wheel.

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    Enjoyed it tremendously. Good racing in difficult condition.
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    Van Aert has been training (altitude camps) with the Tour selection of the team. Climbing-climbing - climbing. Did not hurt him Saturday. He said he planned his attack prior to the race where he did.
    Belgian ITT champ, so once away...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marvinlungwitz View Post
    Alaphilippe had a heck of a day: 5 flats + broken wheel.
    Really, I did not realize that.

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    It would be really interesting to see the tires / bikes that had a lot of problems, and those that did not. Tubeless tires vs tubulars any?

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    Well, that sucks.

    Fabio Jakobsen has life threatening head and neck injuries after a crash in the sprint at the Tour of Poland.

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    Negligent sprint by Gronewegen, really reprehensible. Combined with poor barrier design and 80 km/hr downhill sprint, a horrifying scene. Thoughts and prayers to all injured, especially Jakobsen.
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    People are quick to talk about going to court or crime but very few have real experience of doing mass sprints. The most sensible comment I have seen comes from Robby McEwen :

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    Quote Originally Posted by sk_tle View Post
    People are quick to talk about going to court or crime but very few have real experience of doing mass sprints. The most sensible comment I have seen comes from Robby McEwen :
    I'm not saying it's criminal in the literal sense, but Gronewegen clearly came across at least three lanes and put Jakobsen in the barriers. G had a clear shot at the line; really unsportsmanlike and a clear rule violation. The contact was completely avoidable. I agree that the barriers were poorly thought out and contributed to the severity of the injuries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ldamelio View Post
    I'm not saying it's criminal in the literal sense, but Gronewegen clearly came across at least three lanes and put Jakobsen in the barriers. G had a clear shot at the line; really unsportsmanlike and a clear rule violation. I agree that the barriers were poorly thought out.
    About the criminal part I was mainly refering to Lefevere's and other comments on twitter.

    I don't want to excuse Groenewegen but getting closer to the rider who you feel is catching/passing you is akin to a reflex and not something you control very well. I don't know if you ever took part in massive bunch sprints but it used to be one of my specialties and I know there is so many things your brain can compute in that situation and self preservation goes way at the bottom of that list.

    I would like the UCI to introduce something akin to a côte d'azure 1 or 1.5m on each side of the road in the last 400m of the finish straights that no one can cross. Those painted lines would give a visual cue to the sprinters to ride in a straight manner, and would avoid riders trying to squeeze between barriers and another rider or provide a safety buffer when someone pull a move like that. Jacobsen would have ended up frustrated and halted his sprint had he been forced to cross that line but he would not be in intensive care as I'm writing this.
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