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    Partially completed frame, or else there are stealth h2o bottle mounts I've never heard of before... and made for SRAM eTap only (not necessarily a bad thing). Price quote was something like $2100, and that's a stock aluminum frame.
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    Yes, all of the above.
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    This is my favorite skinny tire bike. Hope the new ones can live up to the very high bar this machine set.
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    Always appreciated the sensibility...

     

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    How much did the original frames go for?
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    I think they were somewhere in the $1-1.5k range? I picked mine up used for a steal, so I'm not entirely sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdp211 View Post
    I think they were somewhere in the $1-1.5k range? I picked mine up used for a steal, so I'm not entirely sure.
    My friend has probably the last havocstaff built. If I remember correctly, it's was about $1800 frame, fork, stem (thomson), seatpost (thomson), headset, I think. That's from my fading memory though.
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    That sounds about right for the later frames (and practically giving away the extra bits), I think the first run frames were even cheaper, but I very well may be clouding my memory on that (especially considering Spooky wasn't even on my radar when those first frames were released).

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    Nice bike. That's a long way down to the drops, it's a good thing you're young! :)
     

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    I don't think the price of the new ones is totally awful. there's $500 just in the fork and headset. they're using the same Commonwealth/Cantabrigian dropouts that Gaulzetti (and I believe Zanconato and others) are using and, from my understanding, very similar Deda pipes. it's certainly comparable to those two, and FTW isn't exactly new to welding aluminum. but yes, it's true you could get a made to measure power-coated Zanc for about 10% less.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by chiasticon View Post
    I don't think the price of the new ones is totally awful. there's $500 just in the fork and headset. they're using the same Commonwealth/Cantabrigian dropouts that Gaulzetti (and I believe Zanconato and others) are using and, from my understanding, very similar Deda pipes. it's certainly comparable to those two, and FTW isn't exactly new to welding aluminum. but yes, it's true you could get a made to measure power-coated Zanc for about 10% less.
    If anyone is going to compete with 'zetti and zanc - service needs to be stepped up considerably.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon White View Post
    If anyone is going to compete with 'zetti and zanc - service needs to be stepped up considerably.
    Kinda have my doubts about the newco on this front.
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    not sure what makes it a mediocre frameset, Jason... it looks great to me. deda tubes will probably ride like a dream.
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    So, Mickey isn't involved with this?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by defspace View Post
    So, Mickey isn't involved with this?
    I have yet to see his name mentioned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j44ke View Post
    I have yet to see his name mentioned.
    he's not. I chatted with Brandon briefly about the frames and he confirmed this.

    Mickey has posted here about being involved with Commonwealth (who's making the dropouts) at some point. not sure if he currently is and Brandon didn't know either. so I assume no. but if he is, then I guess he's got his hands into the bikes on some level, right?
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandon White View Post
    If anyone is going to compete with 'zetti and zanc - service needs to be stepped up considerably.
    I am totally guessing here, but the price may reflect an effort to upgrade service. A hand to mouth business model makes customer service difficult for even the most gracious people. And reading between the lines, this model is a limited run, some of which are already sold, to perhaps suss out the realities of demand. If the Spooky fanbase has been picking up used Spooky frames on eBay for $750 or so, how many people will buy a frame at a price that pays FTW (or whoever builds them) and the rent and the owners and hopefully even produces enough revenue to grow a little. How much did Gaulzetti Corsas cost new? Maybe that is the market they are reaching for. It wasn't necessarily Spooky's market in the past, but that Spooky is no longer here.

    BUT! I will say that this underlines what a rocking deal those bikes from Mike Zanconato are. I mean, just go look at all his fabrication shots on Flickr, then go look at the prices. Then, well, you know what to do then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdp211 View Post
    I think they were somewhere in the $1-1.5k range? I picked mine up used for a steal, so I'm not entirely sure.
    I think I remember the 1st Gen Skeletor being sold for $1k, which is what originally appealed to me way back in 2009-10-ish. SAPA produced frames. I'm pretty sure my current one is one of the 1st Gens and I paid $750 on used market for frame/fork.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by chiasticon View Post
    I don't think the price of the new ones is totally awful. there's $500 just in the fork and headset. they're using the same Commonwealth/Cantabrigian dropouts that Gaulzetti (and I believe Zanconato and others) are using and, from my understanding, very similar Deda pipes. it's certainly comparable to those two, and FTW isn't exactly new to welding aluminum. but yes, it's true you could get a made to measure power-coated Zanc for about 10% less.
    This ^ is pretty much spot on. I think that Spooky's intended competition is in more with VYNL and LOW; ready made frames in stock sizes with very short lead times. In that scenario there priced very competitive with both those brands. I don't thing their trying to compete with Zank or Craig.
     

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    frame looks cool

    would be interesting to see one side by side with my later ftw build frame
     

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