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    A few images of my road bike built by Chas Roberts (noted South London framebuilder).

    Chas thought that my bar to saddle drop would result in too small amount of seatpost showing. Therefore he sloped the top tube just enough to show an acceptable amount of seatpost. Mudguards fitted during the winter months.

    Life O/S tubing, Sachs lugs, Columbus Hiver forks.

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    Lovely stuff.....as a kid I always wanted a Roberts, have had three built for me since 2004 although the frames are now all packed in boxes in me garage, a real shame. Gotta build them back up again this year to leave one back at me mum n dad's gaff in England for trips home.
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    Nice.

    I always wanted a D.O.G.S. B.O.L.X. from Chas back in my MTB days, but I could never afford it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichTheRoadie View Post
    Nice.

    I always wanted a D.O.G.S. B.O.L.X. from Chas back in my MTB days, but I could never afford it.
    +1

    Good to see some more British bikes on here
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    Quote Originally Posted by RichTheRoadie View Post
    Nice.

    I always wanted a D.O.G.S. B.O.L.X. from Chas back in my MTB days, but I could never afford it.

    I had one, rode really nicely but hated the one inch threaded steerer, sorry no pics
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    I've seen a couple Roberts. Gorgeous stuff.

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    Sad to see that Chas Roberts has closed the framebuilding and the shop. Good news are that his son, Geoff, is keeping up the family tradition as framebuilder teacher for Enigma.
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    Quote Originally Posted by corko View Post
    I had one, rode really nicely but hated the one inch threaded steerer, sorry no pics
    really? what were the horrible consequences of a 1in threaded sterer?
    slow.

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    Why do you think there were horrible consequences?....
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    Quote Originally Posted by corko View Post
    Why do you think there were horrible consequences?....
    why would anyone hate a well adjusted 1in head tube set up? I have both ahead set and threaded and i never even think about it because they are silently doing their job. 2 campy and one tange threaded headsets plus a king 1 1/8 aheadset. They all go unnoticed.
    slow.

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    I think he's referring to the use of 1" on Mtb, it really isn't great and does put a big limit on the choice of forks
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    Exactly...... Threaded headsets with rigid forked MTBs were not a great idea and the practice was
    Quickly superseded ...plus quill stems were uber flexy in the then 110+ lengths used. your experiences may differ, but I reserve the right to dislike things I dislike.
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    110mm stem? Yes if you were 5ft 4", any 5ft 9" or 6ft bloke would have a minimum of 130mm stem in those days
    I still have a magazine form early 1991, a report from the Taipei show had a few pictures of "a new stem/headset concept patented by Dia-Compe, they think it will be a standard....".
    Damn how bad was to go downhill with those long 1" quill stems!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gattonero View Post
    Sad to see that Chas Roberts has closed the framebuilding and the shop. Good news are that his son, Geoff, is keeping up the family tradition as framebuilder teacher for Enigma.
    That's news to me......so I'm now not gonna sell any of my three! One going to leave at me mum n dad's for trips home, two at my house in Hungrey n the third build up with Record ten speed to potter about in Germany. A real shame that Chas shut shop.
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    The posting on their site refers to a sabbatical. Here's a link to the history of the brand.

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    Saw the name...
    I had a Roberts in the 70s.
    Was a nice bike... royal blue w a beautiful continental oval fork.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gattonero View Post
    I think he's referring to the use of 1" on Mtb, it really isn't great and does put a big limit on the choice of forks
    Fat Chances were all 1in threaded. Yo Eddys and wickeds which were ridden fast in tough conditions. So were Ritcheys and Bontragers... 1in threaded. I have a wicked w/ a threaded fork which i rode as my only bike in 2012. No problem. An ahead set is smarter therefore better but the old set threaded set up does what has to be done.
    Quill stems don´t need to be flexy.. they are heavier but not flexy. Take a Tioga T bone in 130mm or an Answer Atac .. if you flex those stems you will probably break your bars before it happens.
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    Ritchey had quite of a reputation for having a good front end, very light (those Logic forks were "the" forks) and reliable; but if you had a Klein and you were brave you would smoke out all the 1" steel that was out there. In the early/mid 90's there were already not many YoEddie's on the start line, and it was not just a question of sponsor: suspension forks and better brakes and tyres were pushing the 1" to the very limit, moving to OS kept the weight at the same level with more control. I.e. the inexpensive Zoom a-head stems were lighter and stiffer than any 1" quill.
    Not to mention that the headset won't come loose, is not by chance that CK developed the GripNut, and some companies were using grub screws in the locknut to reduce the tendency of those headsets to get play.
    Man, I love the stuff from the day we all started, I'll never sell my SC or my NextMachine, but I cannot compare to the new stuff like the Pego or Scapin, it's just better in so many ways. The old bikes are great, and if you've kept them means that you feel them being right for you. But is good to have one foot in the present days, too
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    Chas is er the original Chas's son, and Geoff is his brother who helps out at he Enigma Framebuilding school. Winston Vaz who worked there for 3 decades and built loads of frames there including the dogs etc is still building and working underneath his brother's paint shop Varohna Frameworks - varonha. Considerably underpriced frame for the amount of knowledge and years of craftsmanship he has under his belt. Doesn't really do metric though!

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