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    Quote Originally Posted by arik View Post
    My main issue with old RS bikes is that he is constantly perfecting his craft yadda yadda, so every time I see an old one for sale I'm like "there's another one of those bikes from the days when he was still getting his shit together," amirite??
    People are always thinking that the past is merely a prologue to the present.
     

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    I might just have a big 150 miles on this thing so far but it is STELLAR:

    [IMG][/IMG]

    And the Bora Ultra 50 tubulars are even stellar-er . . . ., if that's possible.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by arik View Post
    My main issue with old RS bikes is that he is constantly perfecting his craft yadda yadda, so every time I see an old one for sale I'm like "there's another one of those bikes from the days when he was still getting his shit together," amirite??
    You should sign up for his last bike then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Porter View Post
    I might just have a big 150 miles on this thing so far but it is STELLAR:

    [IMG][/IMG]

    And the Bora Ultra 50 tubulars are even stellar-er . . . ., if that's possible.
    Top of my wish list. I love this bike too Tim!!!
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by davids View Post
    You should sign up for his last bike then.
    -- you would be "hardest parting" behind darren, david and ronnie..
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by ron l edmiston View Post
    -- you would be "hardest parting" behind darren, david and ronnie..
    I'm not in Richard's queue, just his heart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davids View Post
    I'm not in Richard's queue, just his heart.
    -- the best place to be...
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Ross View Post
    Hey, question for you Sachs owners who have a relatively recent (post House colorway? Or at least post vertical dropouts) road frame but enjoy some off-road riding: What's the largest tire you've been able to cram in there?
    Quote Originally Posted by King Of Dirk View Post
    I'm guessing post advent of vertical. Anyway, I'm hoping Bob gets an answer as I am interested in replies as well.
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    At least a 28 likely a 30. SRAM, EE, or Shimano brakes have more space.
    Decided to answer my own question, so I sprung for a pair of Conti GP4000S II in 28c. With Campy Record 11 brakes, Cole C24 wheels, on my 2015-16 Sachs frame, they fit ...but just barely. Maybe 2mm clearance at the top of the brake calipers, and you have to really force the wheel in past the brake pads.

    But jeezus is that a plush ride!
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Ross View Post
    Maybe 2mm clearance at the top of the brake calipers, and you have to really force the wheel in past the brake pads.
    The more you ride them tyres, the greater the clearance under the brake calipers will be...
     

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    Default Re: Richard Sachs Bicycles

    Now with Big Rubber®

     

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    I thought these bottles from House would be a good look for the new RS and also a way to remember Rich Roat, whom I never met but I understand he was a good man.

    [IMG][/IMG]
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Ross View Post
    Conti GP4000S II in 28c. With Campy Record 11 brakes, Cole C24 wheels, on my 2015-16 Sachs frame, they fit ...but just barely. Maybe 2mm clearance at the top of the brake calipers,
    Update: After 97 miles on these 28s I've decided "just barely" isn't enough. Noticed that all the finish on the inside of the brake calipers was already worn off, was getting lots of clogs from organic matter during today's just-slightly-off-road ride, and to top it off noticed that my front wheel was just untrue enough that it wouldn't even freely spin a full revolution. (My wife's comment: "Maybe that's why you were so slow today?")

    Fortunately I had a pair of Challenge Strada 27c on the shelf, which seem to fit much better. Will see if they work on tomorrow's slightly-more-off-road ride.

    If not, will return to 25c tires on the Sachs...and start shopping for a gravel bike. :)
     

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    The Campy brakes are the limiting factor FYI.
     

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    Default Re: Richard Sachs Bicycles

    Yea, just grab a set of ultegra, nobody will notice.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCT View Post
    The Campy brakes are the limiting factor FYI.
    True.

    For the last 2 years or at least since I'm back in Deep River, all the clearances are the same. I use a Sram Red caliper set and a pair of wheels with 27mm tires as a Go, No-Go gauge. The distances from hole to axle permit some extra wiggle room for the brake shoes to be further lowered, and that would enable the next larger tire width to work easily. In the previous years I was more inclined to send bicycles out with distances that placed the brake shoes in the center of the slots.

    I'm a firm believer that the ride of the bicycle is determined by its design. But I also know that component makers want you to believe what they want to sell you will change your life forever. If the former is done well, the latter will have a point of diminishing return if it has any point at all. It's far easier to buy and try new tires (or...) than it is a new frame and fork. But I make these things and have a grip on ride characteristics, comfort, handling, and er - related.

    But yeah. If the industry had a standard for caliper shapes, clearances would be consistent across the board. The last thing I'm going to do is change my specs because the brake makers are all over the map.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DCT View Post
    The Campy brakes are the limiting factor FYI.
    Quote Originally Posted by skouri1 View Post
    Yea, just grab a set of ultegra, nobody will notice.
    I have heard the newest ee brakes, while spendy, have a great deal of clearance and they will avoid any concerns of a Shimagnolo setup.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCfixie View Post
    I have heard the newest ee brakes, while spendy, have a great deal of clearance and they will avoid any concerns of a Shimagnolo setup.
    This is if you can tolerate how they look. My Sachs clears 28 with campy brakes.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionel View Post
    This is if you can tolerate how they look. My Sachs clears 28 with campy brakes.
    They look awesome on my Aerotack and have gobs of clearance.
     

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    Default Re: Richard Sachs Bicycles

    the GP4000s are very TALL. in addition to being like 30-31 width.
    so not a surprise that they rub. Definitely one I hope fits in my frame. probably will, albeit a bit close. though rode my Michelin 28s on a washed out gravel road and it was fine, i made it through alive.
     

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    Apparently the new Campag 12 speed group brakesets were redesigned to accomodate (definitely 28) and up to 3c tires.
    So there’s that.
     

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