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    Default Re: Lugged Aluminum whippets: Vitus, ALAN, Guerciotti

    As a campy ergopower user I always called them laundry hangers
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    Default Re: Lugged Aluminum whippets: Vitus, ALAN, Guerciotti

    Quote Originally Posted by RichTheRoadie View Post
    Totally with you there, Mark - they’re not even comfortable FFS…
    Yeah, but with slotted cable stops you could regularly grease your cables like a civilized person.

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    Default Re: Lugged Aluminum whippets: Vitus, ALAN, Guerciotti

    Quote Originally Posted by lumpy View Post
    Yeah, but with slotted cable stops you could regularly grease your cables like a civilized person.
    And without the double twist half gainer routing inside the shift levers, the cable snapped at the head less frequently and the head could be extracted when it did.

    But the current handlebar bag fetish might never have happened.
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    Default Re: Lugged Aluminum whippets: Vitus, ALAN, Guerciotti

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Kelly View Post
    I know it's only an aesthetic thing but I always hated the Shimano STIs with the cables stuck out the sides. It looked dumb at the time and looks even worse now.
    It is the reason I became a Campy customer when I got my first brifters.

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    Default Re: Lugged Aluminum whippets: Vitus, ALAN, Guerciotti

    Ergopower users never got that cable head issue. It is not like shimano was forced to do it wrong twice.

    I remember when the first duraace sti levers were introduced it was a total deception as we only got rid of the exposed brake cables crossing on top of the levers from all race bike around 1987-88 only to get the luandry line reappear in 1991-1992 on shimano. For me this was a big NO. The fact so many people got cable fraying issues when they only recently put back the cables under the tape was a huge facepalm moment to me , like how can such a company remain leader of the market.

    Well I know why, they can pour so much volume in the market the other conpanies cannot compete in the OEM market and despite my preference to campy and SRAM I still have been riding at least one shimano equiped bike in the last 6 years, mostly for economic reasons.
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    Default Re: Lugged Aluminum whippets: Vitus, ALAN, Guerciotti

    Quote Originally Posted by sk_tle View Post
    Ergopower users never got that cable head issue. It is not like shimano was forced to do it wrong twice.

    I remember when the first duraace sti levers were introduced it was a total deception as we only got rid of the exposed brake cables crossing on top of the levers from all race bike around 1987-88 only to get the luandry line reappear in 1991-1992 on shimano. For me this was a big NO. The fact so many people got cable fraying issues when they only recently put back the cables under the tape was a huge facepalm moment to me , like how can such a company remain leader of the market.

    Well I know why, they can pour so much volume in the market the other conpanies cannot compete in the OEM market and despite my preference to campy and SRAM I still have been riding at least one shimano equiped bike in the last 6 years, mostly for economic reasons.
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    Default Re: Lugged Aluminum whippets: Vitus, ALAN, Guerciotti

    Shiman DURA ACE with laundry lines - for me the best shifting performance in 8 and 9-speed, exclosure the front derailleur ...

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    Default Re: Lugged Aluminum whippets: Vitus, ALAN, Guerciotti

    here another French "lugged" or bonded frame. It's a French RBE - This French company hired in 1992 former employees of TVT, when Joint Venture between M. Tapie and TVT expired. I have a frame only and no idea to build up
    IMG_0378_70pct.jpgIMG_0379_70pct.jpgIMG_0380_30pct.jpgIMG_0381_3ßpct.jpg

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    Default Re: Lugged Aluminum whippets: Vitus, ALAN, Guerciotti

    Quote Originally Posted by gridno27 View Post
    here another French "lugged" or bonded frame. It's a French RBE - This French company hired in 1992 former employees of TVT, when Joint Venture between M. Tapie and TVT expired. I have a frame only and no idea to build up
    Wow, that's lovely!

    If you really want a Mavic group for that, I could be persuaded to part with mine; but it won't be cheap!

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