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    Default Re: Lugged Aluminum whippets: Vitus, ALAN, Guerciotti

    Quote Originally Posted by sk_tle View Post
    One of the only bike of that era where a 1 1/8 stem do not look out of place.
    Indeed. In fact with that massive top race setup on the headset, I think quill stems look a bit ridiculous on the 992.

    It could do with a lower angle stem, ideally; but I'd struggle with the fit that way - not that I'm likely to keep it for long...

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    Default Re: Lugged Aluminum whippets: Vitus, ALAN, Guerciotti

    Quote Originally Posted by RichTheRoadie View Post
    So, how does it ride? How about all the unusual component intermingling? Shimano 11-speed STI and the older front derailleur?
    La Cheeserie!

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    Default Re: Lugged Aluminum whippets: Vitus, ALAN, Guerciotti

    Quote Originally Posted by Saab2000 View Post
    So, how does it ride? How about all the unusual component intermingling? Shimano 11-speed STI and the older front derailleur?
    Not ridden yet - it’s only locked up as I need to properly adjust the BB which means buying a second BB tool; and I don’t have a skinny socket for the crank bolts so I need to find one of those.

    The levers are 8spd. They’re the Claris model. They work perfectly.

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    Default Re: Lugged Aluminum whippets: Vitus, ALAN, Guerciotti

    I ran TA cranks for years and I think I still have the socket somewhere. I'll have a look.
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    Default Re: Lugged Aluminum whippets: Vitus, ALAN, Guerciotti

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Kelly View Post
    I ran TA cranks for years and I think I still have the socket somewhere. I'll have a look.
    Appreciate the thought, Mark, but don't stress - I'm sure I have one somewhere; and if not I'll probably buy one.

    The bike might sell before I need to properly install the cranks anyway, so it might do me a favour to just keep it as an unrideable mock-up rather than properly finishing it (which will also stop me from actually using the NOS Flite!); although I do plan to keep the groupset so I will be installing that on something else eventually...

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    Default Re: Lugged Aluminum whippets: Vitus, ALAN, Guerciotti

    Quote Originally Posted by RichTheRoadie View Post
    Appreciate the thought, Mark, but don't stress - I'm sure I have one somewhere; and if not I'll probably buy one.
    Bunnings to the rescue - took a crank arm with me and found a 15mm socket that went in.

    Also found my old BB tool - which of course meant I couldn’t resist getting the rest of it sorted and fine-tuned. It’s now ready to ride. Well, it is once I decide whether I’m going to use the NOS Flite and tighten up the seatpost clamp so that I can do that!

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    Default Re: Lugged Aluminum whippets: Vitus, ALAN, Guerciotti

    Officially no longer ‘NOS’…


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    Default Re: Lugged Aluminum whippets: Vitus, ALAN, Guerciotti

    Sachs New Success ergos now on:

    D0BF960B-B059-454E-92EE-17E705C8FD34.jpg

    Suit the bike really well (as does the blue tape), but I can’t get them to play nicely…

    Was Sachs ever 9spd? I suspect these may not be 8spd levers. Frustrating as I like them so much I don’t want to put the Shimano levers back on!

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    Default Re: Lugged Aluminum whippets: Vitus, ALAN, Guerciotti

    Quote Originally Posted by RichTheRoadie View Post
    Sachs New Success ergos now on:

    D0BF960B-B059-454E-92EE-17E705C8FD34.jpg

    Suit the bike really well (as does the blue tape), but I can’t get them to play nicely…

    Was Sachs ever 9spd? I suspect these may not be 8spd levers. Frustrating as I like them so much I don’t want to put the Shimano levers back on!
    Does the Mavic rear derailleur have an adjuster on it or are you using the downtube adjuster to try to dial in the indexing? Not saying this is going to fix things, but I preferred using the threaded adjuster made by Campy for this one. The Shimano adjuster had indented stops while the Campy was smooth threaded rotation.

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    Default Re: Lugged Aluminum whippets: Vitus, ALAN, Guerciotti

    Also I think the last of the Mavic rear derailleurs were Shimano compatible.

    I don't think Sachs were 9 speed but mechanism was developed in partnership with Campagnolo so perhaps convertible to 9 speed same as Campy Ergos.
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    Default Re: Lugged Aluminum whippets: Vitus, ALAN, Guerciotti

    I have an 8-speed index ratchet, EC-RE060 from memory, that I'll never use and which fits _some_ early Ergopower pattern shifters. Sing out if you want to throw that into the mix.

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    Default Re: Lugged Aluminum whippets: Vitus, ALAN, Guerciotti

    Thanks both, but I worked it out - the subtle difference in the Campag spacing is the issue.

    I can get the indexing to work for 6 of the cassette in one direction or the other, but not the whole cassette. I’ve put the Claris levers back on for now.

    The Sachs levers would work with a change of freehub body and an 8v Campag cassette; but it’s hard enough finding a modern freehub to do the switch, let alone a 26yr old one!

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    Default Re: Lugged Aluminum whippets: Vitus, ALAN, Guerciotti

    Quote Originally Posted by RichTheRoadie View Post
    Turns out lugged whippets are like buses - couldn’t resist this old school Spesh Allez Epic frameset given the acceptable price and the condition it appears to be in:

    {pic snipped}

    ...Except now I want to put all the Mavic kit on the Epic. Decisions decisions...
    Landed today - it's lovely, and *very* tidy:



    I don't fancy the Vitus' chances of staying built for much longer - the Mavic kit is ideal for this...

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    Default Re: Lugged Aluminum whippets: Vitus, ALAN, Guerciotti

    I think it needs Dura-Ace. And probably with downtube shifters. But if you can find the original Dura-Ace STI, that would be okay,



    http://www.bikes.collie-smooth.com/1991AllezEpic56.html



    Remember to get silver/gray housing for the cables. :-)
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    Default Re: Lugged Aluminum whippets: Vitus, ALAN, Guerciotti

    Quote Originally Posted by j44ke View Post
    I think it needs Dura-Ace. And probably with downtube shifters. But if you can find the original Dura-Ace STI, that would be okay,



    http://www.bikes.collie-smooth.com/1991AllezEpic56.html



    Remember to get silver/gray housing for the cables. :-)
    I don’t do DT shifters, or old school Shimano STIs - it’d have to be DA 7700 so that I could use current Tiagra 9spd levers.

    You’ve made me realise that’s probably the way I should go with it, though - *if* I keep it…

    BTW, that colourway ^^ is the one I really wanted!

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    Default Re: Lugged Aluminum whippets: Vitus, ALAN, Guerciotti

    That bike is '88 or '89, so it would have been 7 speed and 126 spaced. Those bikes looked terrific with 7400 Dura-Ace. You might not want to spread the dropouts wider to stuff a 130 spaced hub in there, although I'm sure you could get away with it in the short run.

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    Default Re: Lugged Aluminum whippets: Vitus, ALAN, Guerciotti

    Nice to see Rich's Bicycle Restorations Ltd. up and running at full capacity.

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    Default Re: Lugged Aluminum whippets: Vitus, ALAN, Guerciotti

    Quote Originally Posted by RichTheRoadie View Post
    I don’t do DT shifters, or old school Shimano STIs - it’d have to be DA 7700 so that I could use current Tiagra 9spd levers.

    You’ve made me realise that’s probably the way I should go with it, though - *if* I keep it…

    BTW, that colourway ^^ is the one I really wanted!
    I bet those decals are available somewhere. It was clear over decal so would be possible. Might not be worth it though.

    Quote Originally Posted by lumpy View Post
    That bike is '88 or '89, so it would have been 7 speed and 126 spaced. Those bikes looked terrific with 7400 Dura-Ace. You might not want to spread the dropouts wider to stuff a 130 spaced hub in there, although I'm sure you could get away with it in the short run.
    And downtube shifters. The last bikes that came out before STI took over that had Dura-Ace and downtube shifters looked pretty stellar. The era of fine alloy finishes.
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    Default Re: Lugged Aluminum whippets: Vitus, ALAN, Guerciotti

    I know it's only an aesthetic thing but I always hated the Shimano STIs with the cables stuck out the sides. It looked dumb at the time and looks even worse now.
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    Default Re: Lugged Aluminum whippets: Vitus, ALAN, Guerciotti

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark Kelly View Post
    I know it's only an aesthetic thing but I always hated the Shimano STIs with the cables stuck out the sides. It looked dumb at the time and looks even worse now.
    Totally with you there, Mark - they’re not even comfortable FFS…

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