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    Default Production-style massive fillets.

    With the new 44mm HT I have found it hard to place enough filler to get a big enough fillet to clean & wash out properly.
    Yesterday I bumped up to a Victor #3 with these results with 1/16" rodIMG_0844.JPG - anyone ever actually use 1/8" or 3/32" rod for big fillets?
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    Default Re: Production-style massive fillets.

    I use 3/32" Gaslfux rods and really like it. Being able to dump more brass in helps with my heat control and keeps the fillet where I want it.

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    Default Re: Production-style massive fillets.

    Reportedly, Tom Ritchey used 1/4" rod when brazing the Everest unicrown forks. Those things looked like they were molded.
     

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    Default Re: Production-style massive fillets.

    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy View Post
    Reportedly, Tom Ritchey used 1/4" rod when brazing the Everest unicrown forks. Those things looked like they were molded.
    Those have a shitload of brass for sure!!!!
    Ever see one unpainted?
    100% dyna-file.
    Melting a 1/4" rod is pretty daunting...............
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    Default Re: Production-style massive fillets.

    Quote Originally Posted by steve garro View Post
    Those have a shitload of brass for sure!!!!
    Ever see one unpainted?
    100% dyna-file.
    Melting a 1/4" rod is pretty daunting...............
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    Default Re: Production-style massive fillets.

    Quote Originally Posted by masispecial View Post
    Here is a photo I stole from ebay a while back:
    Yep.
    I love how the crown race is faced into the fillet.
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    Default Re: Production-style massive fillets.

    That Ritchey crown is so clean looking!
     

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    Default Re: Production-style massive fillets.

    1/4" rod isn't much different, though things go from slow to fast quickly. I use a modest amount of 3/32 for my medium-ish fillets (though I still prefer the smaller stuff).

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    Default Re: Production-style massive fillets.

    I'm not sure that going with a bigger diameter rod helps fillet size so much as not having to grab another rod quite so soon. I like using 3/32, never gone bigger than that
     

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    Default Re: Production-style massive fillets.

    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy View Post
    Reportedly, Tom Ritchey used 1/4" rod when brazing the Everest unicrown forks. Those things looked like they were molded.
    When I attended his seminar last year at NAHBS, he said he'd even used 5/32" rod at times. No paste flux, gasfluxer only.
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    Default Re: Production-style massive fillets.

    Quote Originally Posted by EricKeller View Post
    I'm not sure that going with a bigger diameter rod helps fillet size so much as not having to grab another rod quite so soon. I like using 3/32, never gone bigger than that
    I'm sure it does.
    Often it seems that you are just adding to the internal fillet and not building up the external.
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    Default Re: Production-style massive fillets.

    I went from 1/16 to 3/32 and it was instant big-ol'-fillets. I found it works with my torch-style much better to lay down the bead. for me, 1/16 is perfect for dropouts and stuff like that.

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