alignment table/build surface tolerances

[Jonathan]

Relentless repetition atmo.
Don't even try to build frames.
Fab a few dozen joints, or dropout confluences, or sub-assemblies.
Heck - do a hundred.
Lather, rinse, repeat.

I feel this. It's a rare cat today who can shape his life to one of the few production jobs, but considering its probably the best way to learn I don't know why more folks don't try to emulate it. $50 of 1" and 1.125" 4130 will make enough practice slip fit lugs to fill a 5 gallon bucket. $20 of 5/8" 4130 and some hardware store mild steel will make bunches of tabbed dropout assemblies. That's cheap but effective practice and ideally should be done many times over.

[EricKeller]

I don't think practice is advocated enough, probably because it wasn't the traditional way to learn. I've brazed over 1000 frames and I still go and practice on scrap sometimes.

[Andrew R Stewart]

As this thread drifts...

I'll place my vote for practice loud and clear. I just had one of the worst sessions of brazing that I've had in a while. Partly because i don't torch routeenly and partly because i don't...

I am reminded of the interviews of the musians i've heard (usually on NPR) and their, to the person, claims of the need to keep their chops up with practice. Andy.

[Curt Goodrich]

I don't think practice is advocated enough, probably because it wasn't the traditional way to learn. I've brazed over 1000 frames and I still go and practice on scrap sometimes.

I'm not sure I understand that first question. What tradition doesn't emphasize practice?

[Curt Goodrich]

Oops. I meant to write- I'm not sure I understand that first sentence. What tradition doesn't emphasize practice?

[steve garro]

What tradition doesn't emphasize practice?

Learning how to ***K by reading porn?
:)
- Garro.

[Andrew R Stewart]

Steve- Isn't that like trying to learn how to build a frame by watching videos... :) Andy.