Bicycle Quarterly Reviews the Love #3

[Saab2000]

ink is cheap atmo

And electrons and bandwidth are cheaper still.

[dbohemian]

it has to be said -
this is fucking lame atmo.

Richie, Are you going to invite Jan to visit and respond to this thread as you did that woman from Formigli usa?

[edoz]

For the record, I can't do better than that. In Before The Lock.

[coylifut]

I think Dario should be given a free pass to jack his jaw. It's like putting snow tires on a Ferrari and not liking how it handled at Monza. Set up like that, the front wheel on that bike must feel like it's on ice. There's no turning back from this. Any future analysis in THAT publication is subject.

[Craig Ryan]

I'd like to see the entire article.

[Johny]

3 years ago, I did not renew my subscription after 2 years. I found his articles too lame to inspire confidence. The good ones were written by other frame builders like Mr. Weigle.

[e-RICHIE]

Richie, Are you going to invite Jan to visit and respond to this thread as you did that woman from Formigli usa?

actually i think it's better that dario have the soapbox since it's his brand atmo.

[Dazza]

I'd like to see the entire article.

yeah with gems like this
"This means that bike handling may be less important for professional racers than it is for enthusiast riders who like to explore the limits of tire adhesion as they enjoy their bikes."
it will be interesting

[rphetteplace]

No offense to Dario as I thought it would be impossible to make one of his bikes ugly, but that thing looks like it was set up for him by Grant Peterson. F'n fugly! Horses for courses man!

Jan now needs to review a SV so we all can know the answer...which is better a Peg or a SV :)

[davids]

I haven't seen such a hideously set-up Pegoretti since before the Velocipede Salon.

What idiocy. And Heine's idiot minions are going to see this hatchet job as validation of his dogma.

[david]

i'm an idiot but even i know that's stupid.

[redturbo]

Is this the planing dude? enough said!

[mschol17]

I thought this would be the thread that made Swoop come back...

[EricKeller]

yeah with gems like this
"This means that bike handling may be less important for professional racers than it is for enthusiast riders who like to explore the limits of tire adhesion as they enjoy their bikes."
it will be interesting

I prefer not to explore the limits of tire adhesion. I don't know that I ever liked to explore the limits of tire adhesion on a bike.

[happycampyer]

No offense to Dario as I thought it would be impossible to make one of his bikes ugly, but that thing looks like it was set up for him by Grant Peterson. F'n fugly! Horses for courses man!

Jan now needs to review a SV so we all can know the answer...which is better a Peg or a SV :)

Fortunately for Sacha, the seat mast on the Speedvagen would make it impossible to set it up like that.

That bike looks like it was Photoshopped. Why not put a 650c tire on the rear so that it would ride more like a penny farthing?

[toomanybikes]

Unsurprisingly, Jan didn't like it. Some choice quotes:

"To my surprise, the bike and I could go significantly faster. The bike was not giving me feedback about how hard I was working. Unlike more flexible frames, it was not enticing me to try harder and go faster."

"the handlebars were about 40 mm higher than I would prefer. Even so, it did not seem to limit my performance."

"I was not prepared for the Pegoretti's lack of acceleration."

"I found the Pegoretti too unstable to inspire confidence."

"Overall, the appeal of the Pegoretti probably lies more in the name and the story behind the brand, rather than the actual bike."

And one bonus...

"This means that bike handling may be less important for professional racers than it is for enthusiast riders who like to explore the limits of tire adhesion as they enjoy their bikes."




Discuss.

Why the hell didn't he get his hands on the right size bike for him???

[Alistair]

Ok, I get that Dario is somewhat sacred ground around these parts but really, is this kind of name calling really necessary? It's a bicycle review, in a cycling mag, c'mon.
Jan's an experienced cyclist who loves bikes, like many of you here. He expresses his opinions and observations about the bikes that he rides. Is that really so bad?

I live in Seattle and Jan and I run into each other from time to time. I consider him a friend in fact and have had many interesting bicycle related conversations with him over the years. I can tall you that words like "fucking lame", "out of his ass", "idiot", "ten pounds of shit", "no insight" etc. are really not warranted.
I agree with the comments questioning why Jan chose to test a bike that was too big for him. I don't know why he did it that way but really, does this require the vitriol y'all are exhibiting here?
I've enjoyed reading BQ (nee VBQ) over the years and have particularly liked the articles documenting various aspects of the history of cycling. I've experimented with some of the geometry and tubing selection ideas in my own frames and find that the front loading system really works well for my kind of riding.
I don't agree with all of BQ, or find all the articles to my taste but that's to be expected. I do feel that it's an interesting and useful perspective on cycling, for me.

Alistair, not one of " Heine's idiot minions", Spence.

[edoz]

I'm not much of a BQ reader, so I have to ask how often they feature racey bikes as opposed to touring and vintage bikes that I (possibly erroneously) associate with that mag. Is it like BMX Action reviewing a trials bike?

[edoz]

I'm not much of a BQ reader, so I have to ask how often they feature racey bikes as opposed to touring and vintage bikes that I (possibly erroneously) associate with that mag. Is it like BMX Action reviewing a trials bike?

Ok, since you can check out the table of contents of past issues on the BQ website I find that I'm right about that mag. Looks like these are the first reviews of race bikes, so I guess we can say beginner's luck has forsaken him. I did find some interesting articles listed though, like several entries about suspension losses and Randonneuring aerodynamics. Interesting in an out of place kinda way.

Also, the only thing lamer than the Peg review is quoting yourself.

[coylifut]

i think the name calling is warranted. he's far too intelligent not to know he's being an ass by commenting on the handling of a bike where the seat is buried on the tt and the bars are above the seat. it's like buying a set of his Grand Bois Cypres tires in size 30, mounting them on a set of Cosmics and then writing a derogatory article on how they underperformed in the Tuesday night crit. He seems to have a consistent axe to grind when it comes to more modern equipment.

The fact that he didn't insist on testing a bike where the hoods are in close proximity to personal ride tells me the test had no control and this is simply another one of his junk science experiments used to prove his long held bias.