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    Default Stan's and Mich Mud 2's

    I just tried remounting a set of Mich Mud 2's on Stan's rims. Front tire went flawlessly; poured in Stan's, hit it with the compressor, aired up perfectly. Rear tire wouldn't seal enough to get the initial bead set. I tried centering the tire in the rim channel, but it just wouldn't get that initial pop of air to set the bead. Compressor I was using was decent, at least good enough to seat the front tire. Thoughts, suggestions?

    I have a race next weekend. Amazingly, I had to forethought to start this a week beforehand.

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    Try a couple more layers of Stan's yellow tape to build up the center channel and see if it helps. I'm surprised you were able to get one of those to seat nicely!

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    I have attempted to mount 3 different mud2's tubeless on Stan's rims. The first two took immediately. The third tire would not take, even after repeated efforts, cleaning the rims, and so on. I think it's just one of those tire/rim combinations that sometimes works and sometimes doesn't.

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    Did you try soapy water?
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    I think this is posted elsewhere as well, but try installing the tire with a tube first, then remove the tube while leaving as much of the bead set as possible. FWIW I've got Mud 2s on Ultegra 6700 wheels and they set up easily with a high volume floor pump.

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    I was lucky, did mine with a floor pump (mud2s and Stans rims). It did take a while for the sealant to form a seal (yeah, couldn't come up with a better way to say that). So I pumped, pushed the bead into place as much as possible, sloshed the goo around, pumped some more.... Finally the tire took a seal and reached a high enough pressure to seat the bead (big popping noise will be heard when it seats). Even then I was getting little air bubbles at various spots around the bead. Just kept sloshing the wheel around, pushing and prodding, and eventually it all sealed up. The front tire took about 30 seconds, the rear was several minutes of futzing. Was a bit messy but cleaned up fine.

    I almost gave up so only advice is patience.

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    Default Re: Stan's and Mich Mud 2's

    New (unmounted) Muds seem to set up better than tires that have been mounted repeatedly.

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    Default Re: Stan's and Mich Mud 2's

    I couldn't get my Mud2s to seal on a set of Bontrager road tubeless wheels. I made a good mess though.

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    Default Re: Stan's and Mich Mud 2's

    mount tire and use 'saran wrap', packing wrap or similar-
    wrapping the circumference of the tire using it to push the tire down onto the rim-
    then add stan's and hit the compressor. Saran will hold the tire down and air will force the sidewall out to seat.

    Hope that makes sense. Works great.
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    Default Re: Stan's and Mich Mud 2's

    Quote Originally Posted by Rosko View Post
    mount tire and use 'saran wrap', packing wrap or similar-
    wrapping the circumference of the tire using it to push the tire down onto the rim-
    then add stan's and hit the compressor. Saran will hold the tire down and air will force the sidewall out to seat.

    Hope that makes sense. Works great.

    That's genius! I like your thinking!

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    Default Re: Stan's and Mich Mud 2's

    Quote Originally Posted by Rosko View Post
    mount tire and use 'saran wrap', packing wrap or similar-
    wrapping the circumference of the tire using it to push the tire down onto the rim-
    then add stan's and hit the compressor. Saran will hold the tire down and air will force the sidewall out to seat.

    Hope that makes sense. Works great.
    I do the same thing, but I use toe-clip straps. May have to try cling wrap.

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    Default Re: Stan's and Mich Mud 2's

    Quote Originally Posted by Rosko View Post
    mount tire and use 'saran wrap', packing wrap or similar-
    wrapping the circumference of the tire using it to push the tire down onto the rim-
    then add stan's and hit the compressor. Saran will hold the tire down and air will force the sidewall out to seat.

    Hope that makes sense. Works great.
    This makes a lot of sense. I'll give it a try and report back. Thanks.

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    Default Re: Stan's and Mich Mud 2's

    Mine worked directly on crest rims with soap water. On these rims they however end up being 34-35 mm wide, and they look a bit weird when the actual tire is alot wider than the threading (corner grip might suffer?)

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    Default Re: Stan's and Mich Mud 2's

    Quote Originally Posted by Rosko View Post
    mount tire and use 'saran wrap', packing wrap or similar-
    wrapping the circumference of the tire using it to push the tire down onto the rim-
    then add stan's and hit the compressor. Saran will hold the tire down and air will force the sidewall out to seat.

    Hope that makes sense. Works great.
    I was having trouble with a set of road tubeless tires and DT Swiss Tricons and used this method to get them going with a floor pump. Good idea.

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