Pros and VCons of Tufo Tape versus Glue, please discuss

[znfdl]

I am curious to hear about people's views on Tufo Tape versus Tubular Glue. Thanks.

[SteveP]

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i thk the tape works fine for road application... easy to use, the tire has high pressure in it anyway which helps the bond.
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gluing becomes mroe problematic in cross...where the tires are very low pressure (25psi os thereabouts ), they are very large diameter and lean at pretty considerable realtively slow speed angles.
lot more leverage in these circumstances... way stronger bond needed for cross tires.
read zanc on gluing cross tubulars.

[77sparks]

I agree with Steve. I have tried both ways for both applications (road and cross). The tape seems fine for the road but is not adequate for the rigors and low tire-pressures of 'cross. That said I now glue only after having the tape fail me rather spectacularly. Plus it's fun getting yourself all sticky when gluing up a batch of tires.

[shoney]

road? I'll never go back to glue as long as tufo tape is around. 5 minute install, holds tight, and comes off perfectly clean when it's time to change a tire.

[Dorman]

Are you guys using the regular or the extreme?

[962]

comes off perfectly clean when it's time to change a tire.

That's my beef... how do you get it off the rim?

[ergott]

Most of stays with the tire. What stays on the rim is very easy to remove.

There is only one formula tape now.

-Eric

[shoney]

That's my beef... how do you get it off the rim?

what ergott said, and any residue still on the rim comes off cleanly in a strip with a little heat. And yeah, there is only formula now which is superior to the old extreme (was way too thin).

[krthornton]

That's my beef... how do you get it off the rim?

Ergott has it right. I've found that the little extra residue can often be peeled off with my fingers. Failing that, heat guns work wonders on aluminum rims.

[El Chaba]

I use glue.

[lavi]

Imma gluer, but would happily switch to tape. Please elaborate more on the removal of the tape. Heat and peel it off, that's it? Works for carbon rims too?

[nahtnoj]

Whats the storyl with tape and roadside tire changes?

[krthornton]

Whats the storyl with tape and roadside tire changes?

Two options:

1. Pull off flat tire, mount spare. It'll be kinda stuck-ish by the time you get home, due to the leftover sticky residue. I've done this a few times, and it is no worse that changing a glued-on flat. (I have 1 wheel set glued, another taped. Both are easy to deal with when flats happen.)

2. Put a new roll of tape on (you'd need a razor to cut it to length), then mount new tire. This would take an extra few minutes, and you'd obviously need the tape.

[shoney]

Imma gluer, but would happily switch to tape. Please elaborate more on the removal of the tape. Heat and peel it off, that's it? Works for carbon rims too?

To remove it super clean-like (in shop, obviously), I do it like this: heat a small section to get it started, and once you start peeling the tire, apply a little heat as you continue to peel. It should come off cleanly with the tape still on the tire. You can then peel the tape off the tire without harming the basetape. And yes, it works on carbon, I've done it many times without harming the carbon rim bed. It beats the fock out of scraping glue with acetone and paint remover. It works so easily I sometimes wonder if Ron Popeil was involved.

[Too Tall]

Whats the storyl with tape and roadside tire changes?

1/4 stick of dynamite is sufficient.

[lavi]

1/4 stick of dynamite is sufficient.

This is another barrier for me. In the end, there are pros and cons on both sides.

You could do like the tri-geeks do and leave an inch unglued for ease of removal. HA!

[962]

Yeah. Ok. On a set of used rims I just ripped the tire off and was left blistering my thumbs getting most of it off the rim. I feel like it's easy enough to just knock a little glue off the bed when you're gluing the next tire. The main plus for me would be being able to center perfectly before pulling out the backing. But dirty secret: last time I dropped off my wheels at the shop and left a week later with new tires glued on. Ha!

[metanoize]

Any experiences with Velox Jantex tape?

[El Chaba]

1/4 stick of dynamite is sufficient.

I have seen a couple of people unable to remove a tire on the road because of tape....
I hope this doesn't sound overly harsh, but if you are going to use tubulars, you really need to make the committment to master the skills to glue on a tire...Otherwise, clinchers are a better alternative.

[El Chaba]

Any experiences with Velox Jantex tape?

The jantex tape is pretty weak. I haven't seen any in years. I recall them saying that it was "not approved for use in competition". I also recall that it's intended purpose was not to attach a tire by itself, but to be applied to a rim in conjunction with glue to "tighten up" an overly stretched tubular to give it a tighter fit.