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    Ciao

    I'm Dario and my friend Riccardo asked me to be here. Ask me anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Round View Post
    Ciao

    I'm Dario and my friend Riccardo asked me to be here. Ask me anything.

    D
    can I?

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    Wow, This is pretty cool. Welcome to Smoked Out, Dario.
    Could you tell us the story of how you got started in framebuilding?
    Eric Doswell, aka Edoz
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    Hello Dario,
    I wanted to say good-bye in english (with the help of Uncle "Bing Translator").
    A greeting to all your friends and fans of Dario bike around the world.
    I am presenting to the group, my name is Roberto, i live in Verona, the city of "Romeo and Juliet" and "Arena", I think Dario is a fantastic framebuilder and also a special person.
    I forgot: I have a Marcelo and a Big Leg Emma (I love this frame) and ... is not yet finished here.

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    Dario,
    Benvenuto
    One of the few things that are on my very short list of things to do before I die is to get good and drunk with a famous Italian bicycle builder.
    Would you be so kind?
    -Josh

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    Welcome Mr Dario and big up to e-RICCARDO for smoking you out.

    All the best
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    Quote Originally Posted by ciofecca gialloblý View Post
    Hello Dario,
    I wanted to say good-bye in english (with the help of Uncle "Bing Translator").
    A greeting to all your friends and fans of Dario bike around the world.
    I am presenting to the group, my name is Roberto, i live in Verona, the city of "Romeo and Juliet" and "Arena", I think Dario is a fantastic framebuilder and also a special person.
    I forgot: I have a Marcelo and a Big Leg Emma (I love this frame) and ... is not yet finished here.
    I apologize to everyone, I think I have had a problem with the translator (Bing), I didn't want to say goodbye to the Group of Velocipide, but I wanted to greet everyone.
    Sorry but my English is really bad.

    Roberto

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    Hello to everybody! My name is Nicola and i Live in Rome. I own two bikes made by Dario, which i've already presented in the v salon gallery, a Responsorium and a Luigino.....no need to say i love both of them! Let me say a great thank you to Richard for his wonderful Idea to invite Dario to show the world what a fortune is for us italian to have a man like him with us!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Too Tall View Post
    Dario,
    Benvenuto
    One of the few things that are on my very short list of things to do before I die is to get good and drunk with a famous Italian bicycle builder.
    Would you be so kind?
    -Josh

    Ciao Josh,
    che cazzo, will be a great pleasure, just let me know where, how and when.
    D
    Last edited by Round; 11-22-2011 at 06:44 PM.

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    note - i wrote these words (below) in 2005 and am pasting them in their entirety here atmo -

    =====

    atmo dario is one of the few originals, despite the fact that - as has been noted - we're all the sum of our experiences. in the bicycle industry, going back at least to the early 70s, dario is a one-hander; the number of folks that have made the impact on the trade that dario has can be counted on one hand. atmo, dario has earned his stripes.

    here's a text i emailed dario last year in the midst of the tubing project we were collaborating on. note: i had met dario several years prior when he came to visit chester. whoa. so, there already was some history between us before the project began. but in the middle of it i pinched myself because i realized that i was working with an icon. i wrote this:

    hey dario-issimo...

    i just wanted to add a note of thanks to all these emails,
    and the phone calls too. the thought of us being "pals"
    fills me with good feelings.

    i first heard your name in the early 90s. i believe it was
    either from storino or tim maloney (maloney is an old, old
    pal of mine from new jersey). regardless, whoever of the
    two mentioned your name informed me that in italy, which
    was then still the bastion of all great framebuillding ideas,
    this man "dario" was the next in line to all the famous tailors
    who made the great bicycles through the eras.

    since i consider myself an armchair student of these "great
    men", i watched throught the decade and into this century
    as you have proven true what my pal (which one, i forget!)
    predicted would happen.

    i watched all the frames that georgio imported, first as giordanas,
    and later as pegorettis, and knew that mister dario truly is the
    best of all builders. i often wish i had other skills and more of
    a curiousity about what is there in addition to steel. i believe
    it takes a craftsman with no self-imposed bounderies to really
    know what the limits are. i have stayed safely within the cocoon
    of steel, and you have tried and succeeded with so many other
    material combinations.

    as you know from some of our exchanges and the posts i make
    online, i am not too impressed from within our industry; i haven't
    had much inspiration comefrom bicycles since the 70s, despite
    still trying to forge ahead. but you, dario, are one of the true
    geniuses of the craft, and i admire you like you cannot believe.
    it is my pleasure to call you a friend, and an honor to be making
    some of these decisions with you regarding the future of quality
    steel tubing.

    i want to thank you for all your dedication, for being the one
    at the vanguard, and for being the leader of an industry that
    should always have italian roots. the bicycle is a beautiful
    object, and often the americans can complicate its beauty.
    it's because of geniuses like you that the beauty remains.

    as we say here, "you are the man!"
    ciao, bro'.
    e-RICHIE©ôģ


    i s'pose my only point in posting this is to support any notions that dario's body of work stands on its own, despite the jazz, and the clapton, and the basquiet, and all the other influences some of you see in it. he has taken all of his racing, and his art, and his life experiences, and created something from scratch. that should be respected atmo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by edoz View Post
    Wow, This is pretty cool. Welcome to Smoked Out, Dario.
    Could you tell us the story of how you got started in framebuilding?
    Ciao Eric,
    Thanks for your question, I have started accidentally, when I finished the high school in Trento I chose to continue with a school that was in Verona.
    The real reason was not the school but in Verona lived a beautiful girl that I liked a lot, I race as an amateur and the father of this girl, who was Gino Milani , was coach of an amateur team. Milani asked me if I wanted to race for this team and I said yes. †I had no interest in the framebuilding but I had little interest in the money because I was always without money. Milani, one day asked me if I wanted to work in the workshop to help a bit and I said yes.
    After a year I was completely involved in the workshop.
    After two years I have stopped to' race .
    After three years I stopped going to school
    But I still buid frames .
    D

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    The real reason was not the school but in Verona lived a beautiful girl that I liked a lot

    OK Dario
    Tell us about the beautiful girl


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    ciao dario,
    this is james.
    i hope you're well and happy.
    today i rode my marcelo that you painted in the pink elvis motif. i just wanted to thank you for building such a wonderful bike. every time i ride it, it makes me very happy.
    i hope someday that maurya and i can return to italy and see you again.
    we often talk about how much we enjoyed spending time with you.
    take care, my friend,
    james

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    I don't have anything pertinent to add/ask but would just like to say that despite all the years you have spent making steel frames, yours are always the freshest and most modern of designs.

    I want a Pegoretti in my life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by e-RICHIE View Post
    note - i wrote these words (below) in 2005 and am pasting them in their entirety here atmo -

    =====

    atmo dario is one of the few originals, despite the fact that - as has been noted - we're all the sum of our experiences. in the bicycle industry, going back at least to the early 70s, dario is a one-hander; the number of folks that have made the impact on the trade that dario has can be counted on one hand. atmo, dario has earned his stripes.

    here's a text i emailed dario last year in the midst of the tubing project we were collaborating on. note: i had met dario several years prior when he came to visit chester. whoa. so, there already was some history between us before the project began. but in the middle of it i pinched myself because i realized that i was working with an icon. i wrote this:

    hey dario-issimo...

    i just wanted to add a note of thanks to all these emails,
    and the phone calls too. the thought of us being "pals"
    fills me with good feelings.

    i first heard your name in the early 90s. i believe it was
    either from storino or tim maloney (maloney is an old, old
    pal of mine from new jersey). regardless, whoever of the
    two mentioned your name informed me that in italy, which
    was then still the bastion of all great framebuillding ideas,
    this man "dario" was the next in line to all the famous tailors
    who made the great bicycles through the eras.

    since i consider myself an armchair student of these "great
    men", i watched throught the decade and into this century
    as you have proven true what my pal (which one, i forget!)
    predicted would happen.

    i watched all the frames that georgio imported, first as giordanas,
    and later as pegorettis, and knew that mister dario truly is the
    best of all builders. i often wish i had other skills and more of
    a curiousity about what is there in addition to steel. i believe
    it takes a craftsman with no self-imposed bounderies to really
    know what the limits are. i have stayed safely within the cocoon
    of steel, and you have tried and succeeded with so many other
    material combinations.

    as you know from some of our exchanges and the posts i make
    online, i am not too impressed from within our industry; i haven't
    had much inspiration comefrom bicycles since the 70s, despite
    still trying to forge ahead. but you, dario, are one of the true
    geniuses of the craft, and i admire you like you cannot believe.
    it is my pleasure to call you a friend, and an honor to be making
    some of these decisions with you regarding the future of quality
    steel tubing.

    i want to thank you for all your dedication, for being the one
    at the vanguard, and for being the leader of an industry that
    should always have italian roots. the bicycle is a beautiful
    object, and often the americans can complicate its beauty.
    it's because of geniuses like you that the beauty remains.

    as we say here, "you are the man!"
    ciao, bro'.
    e-RICHIE©™ģ


    i s'pose my only point in posting this is to support any notions that dario's body of work stands on its own, despite the jazz, and the clapton, and the basquiet, and all the other influences some of you see in it. he has taken all of his racing, and his art, and his life experiences, and created something from scratch. that should be respected atmo.

    Honestly I must confess that the first time I read Riccardo words I was surprised, excited and happy. I think it is one of the most beautiful articles written about my work and my person. I was surprised because it came from the United States and by a colleague.
    I think it would be impossible in Italy .
    Thanks Riccardo
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    Quote Originally Posted by corko View Post
    I don't have anything pertinent to add/ask but would just like to say that despite all the years you have spent making steel frames, yours are always the freshest and most modern of designs.

    I want a Pegoretti in my life.
    Hey,
    Graaaazie mille !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by climb01742 View Post
    ciao dario,
    this is james.
    i hope you're well and happy.
    today i rode my marcelo that you painted in the pink elvis motif. i just wanted to thank you for building such a wonderful bike. every time i ride it, it makes me very happy.
    i hope someday that maurya and i can return to italy and see you again.
    we often talk about how much we enjoyed spending time with you.
    take care, my friend,
    james
    Ciao James,
    I have great memories , in Tuscany and here in Caldonazzo, i feel really good, i hope the same for you and for Maurya, don't forget you are always welcome but I hope one day to visit you in Boston.
    Take care my friend
    D

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    With your permission I'd like to ask some harder questions.
    Do great race bikes also make great training bikes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pasquino View Post
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    Please, go ahead.

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    Dario, just let me be another person to say: I love you work!

    Obviously a lot of people know you for your beautiful artwork, the use of typography, etc. Do you ever feel frustrated a lot of people don't know about your technical innovations?

    Can you tell us a little bit about your work with Columbus?

    I read somewhere you like southwestern food, so if you ever make it out here breakfast burritos, wine and other great food is on me!

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