Will hollowgram cranks ever be available for less than a whillion dollars?

[Booger]

Considering BB30, but it will be very difficult to give up Shimano. I'm not particularly impressed with the Sram or FSA BB30 offerings. Am I wrong? I've managed to bend truvativ and FSA chainrings before and hate to mess with something that works.

Lucky for me, Cannondale makes no BS metal cranks that are apparently quite awesome. I'll pick up a set of those...*surfs to ebay*.. wtf? This was 6 months ago. Still looking.

Can someone explain the shortage? More importantly, will supply ever pick up?

[suspectdevice]

There will be some very nice options available after eurobike. Made out of metal. Same price as Cannnondale cranks, but even lighter, even stiffer, narrower, and backwards compatible with bsa bb shells too...

[jtferraro]

Yeah, good points made. I don't have any real answers re: shortage but have heard C'dale's manufacturer of Hollowgram cranks isn't a huge outfit. I'm lucky enough to have 2 sets of Hollowgrams SL's, 1 black, 1 silver. Had to wait a long time for the 2nd set and wouldn't had to also wait a long time for the first, but a buddy of mine who works at my LBS gave me his, then he took mine...once they finally arrived. I guess the best advice is to simply get your order in...if you're ready to give up on Shimano's tried & true crankset, of course.

[Booger]

There will be some very nice options available after eurobike. Made out of metal. Same price as Cannnondale cranks, but even lighter, even stiffer, narrower, and backwards compatible with bsa bb shells too...

Sounds like a tall order. Are you at liberty to divulge the manufacturer?

[shorelocal]

Considering BB30, but it will be very difficult to give up Shimano. I'm not particularly impressed with the Sram or FSA BB30 offerings. Am I wrong? I've managed to bend truvativ and FSA chainrings before and hate to mess with something that works.

I'm in the same boat ... looking for a BB30 crankset but can't really justify MSRP for the Hollowgrams. I'm looking at the Red BB30 offering ... apart from the Truvativ chainrings, have you heard/read anything bad concerning the Red BB30 cranks?

[Booger]

I'm in the same boat ... looking for a BB30 crankset but can't really justify MSRP for the Hollowgrams. I'm looking at the Red BB30 offering ... apart from the Truvativ chainrings, have you heard/read anything bad concerning the Red BB30 cranks?

I've heard plenty about flimsy chainrings. Lots out there about the pros using other rings. I'm not sure if sram has addressed the issue, but it's enough to scare me away for now.

[SteveP]

shimano cranks are awesome.

[GrantM]

shimano cranks are awesome.

If I had a BB30 frame, and was going to use a Shimano drivetrain,
i'd have some adapters made to use a shimano crank.

If I had a BB30 frame, and was going to use a Campag drivetrain,
i'd use the adapters supplied by campag to use a campag crank.

-g

[shorelocal]

Too bad Shimano doesn't provide a BB30 offering (yet?).

With Eurobike not being held until Sept, and the leadtime of getting new product to distis/dealers, don't think I can wait until 2010 for my cranks.

[GrantM]

Too bad Shimano doesn't provide a BB30 offering (yet?).

how bad is it? If you want it bad enough, someone with the machining skills
can make you some cups. But most people couldn't be bothered, which really
says to me they don't care that much. Anything is possible if you want it.

-g

[shorelocal]

I guess I don't want Shimano bad enough to go through those hassles, and wouldn't have purchased a BB30 frame if I wasn't going to take advantage of it's benefits. Just more disappointed I guess in the fact that there aren't more options available in BB30 yet.

[-Dustin]

SI cranks with Shimano rings...that's a pretty badass setup.

[GrantM]

I guess I don't want Shimano bad enough to go through those hassles, and wouldn't have purchased a BB30 frame if I wasn't going to take advantage of it's benefits.

BB30 has few real technical benefits, and makes zero real world difference.

Other than lots of welding surface for an alu frame,
BB30 is 99% marketing gimmick when you factor in that
most of the BB30 cranksets available right now suck.

The Hollowgram Si crank is nice enough, but not because
it's BB30. It could have a cr-mo bb axle with outboard
cups, and be no less of a crank.

-g

[shorelocal]

Info below taken from the Gaulzetti site:

An oversized BB30 bottom bracket is specified and offers more area to TIG weld, thus rendering the bottom bracket area more rigid. It also allows for a wider selection of crank options, a potentially narrower “Q” factor and the use of larger roller bearings with reduced friction when compared to a traditional bottom bracket.

Agree that the crank offerings for BB30 are slim for sure, thus my disappointment that Shimano aren't on board with this, and might never be.

[GrantM]

Agree that the crank offerings for BB30 are slim for sure, thus my disappointment that Shimano aren't on board with this, and might never be.

someone will do shimano cups.
BB30 has momentum. ( i'm not anti-BB30,
as long as cups can run other armsets.)

The market needs a post-english-thread standard,
and it may as well be BB30. It's not a bad idea,
like ISIS was, and BB30 can work well with the right
crankset. It's just a shame so many BB30 cranks
from FSA are crap.

-g

[musgravecycles]

Grant I'm pretty sure Paragon [Machine Works] already has adapter's for using Shimano cranks in a BB30...

[suspectdevice]

Sounds like a tall order. Are you at liberty to divulge the manufacturer?

One of my engineers (He's Dutch) is working on it. They've already passed CEN, efbe, etc, etc and are going to be released publicly during the Tour.

Every time I receive a solidworks file from this guy I open it like a Christmas present... (and um, he used to work for Cannondale... )

He hasn't decided on the name of the brand yet, a logo, or anything like that, but he does have some ground-breaking no-nonsense stems, posts and cranksets that I am more than excited to put on my bikes!

[GrantM]

Grant I'm pretty sure Paragon [Machine Works] already has adapter's for using Shimano cranks in a BB30...

there you go! shimano riders of the world unite.

-g

[-Dustin]

Shimano cranks in a BB30 is easy enough already...

both Specialized and Cannondale have sleeves available.

FifteenG and Zipp make bottom brackets that are capable of accepting 30mm spindles. I just wish someone would make a spindle that was compatible with SI cranks and the 93mm width.

Or maybe FifteenG will release a road crank.

[GrantM]

Shimano cranks in a BB30 is easy enough already...

both Specialized and Cannondale have sleeves available.

Ya, i wasn't talking about putting an english insert into the BB30,
and installing external threaded bearing cups.

Campagnolo makes bearing cups that press right into the BB30 shell,
and you fire your UT cranks in the same as the std cups... a good set up.

http://www.campagnolo.com/repository..._integrata.jpg

-g