Re: signing waivers and releases atmo -
Just got in after 4 hrs. on the bike, 4 hrs. of practice. These threads made me hyper-conscious of what I was doing, good stuff.
Originally Posted by e-RICHIE
Since I started the cut and paste deal I'll do it again.
I don't have anything more to add except Slate's explanation doesn't jibe with this guy's:
Join Date: Jan 2011
I was there, I will try to exercise tact.
Large group rides or experience level
Heard this comment just before the ride, "there are too many new bikes here." The guy who made the comment was in full Rapha and peeled off 5 min early. He was afraid of crashing his murdered-out Canyon. Then, in the first mile, my friend's buddy, riding a new Time, kept making comments about his bike being twitchy and the amount of riders. These were only 2 riders out of 50 plus but I imagine there were a few other guys out there just as anxious. I guess this speaks to the various experience levels on the ride.
A female rider crashed on the first, less technical descent.
I rode behind him on the final climb for about a minute or two. I'm no cycling coach but I concluded he had years of experience (but according to his brother, he did not) since he was one of the stronger climbers and had great technique. He was also one of the oldest if not the oldest rider in the group. It's not difficult to sense motivation and drive in a rider's style.
The rider's group
He was following the line of a much more experienced (30 years) UCI licensed rider.
Right from the start, all I heard was squealing. The squealing of brakes in front of me. Then, I overcooked a corner and a very aggressive rider behind me screamed at me. The crash occurred a few seconds later.
The organization of the ride
A beautiful morning. A few nice speeches. The usual, "this is not a race but a social ride." And that was the nature of the ride, except, I'm sure I wasn't the only rider who didn't expect a "technical" descent. I was out there on 5 hours of sleep with new wheels and a not dialed-in cockpit. In any case, no warnings were given about the descent, even a perfunctory one.
The demographics of the ride
No one over 60 and 5 women. Also the slowest riders were the youngest, the USC Cycling kids. So, out of 7 "outliers" there were 2 crashes on descents. Not wheels touching or other lapses of etiquette.
"Old and standing in the way of progress"